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BatistGod
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France is Gonna Die! It's a conspiracy to blow me up! Accord signed in France on breakthrough nuclear reactorTue Nov 21, 8:41 AM ET PARIS (AFP) - The EU and six nations have signed a treaty launching a multibillion-dollar experimental nuclear fusion research project, aimed at emulating the power of the sun to provide limitless, clean energy. "This is a new step in an exceptional adventure," French President Jacques Chirac said Tuesday after leading the signing ceremony in Paris that ended decades of tortuous negotiations. Representatives from the European Union, China, India, Japan, Russia, South Korea and the United States signed the pact on the construction of the 10-billion-euro (12.8 billion dollar) reactor. Originally called the International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor but now known officially by its initials ITER (or "the way" in Latin), the facility is to be built in Cadarache, in southern France, over a decade starting 2008. The project aims to research a clean and limitless alternative to dwindling fossil fuel reserves by testing nuclear fusion technologies. Instead of splitting the atom -- the principle behind current nuclear plants -- the project seeks to harness nuclear fusion: the power of the sun and the stars achieved by fusing together atomic nuclei. If it is successful, a prototype commercial reactor will be built, and if that works, fusion technology will be rolled out across the world. Chirac said the experimental reactor was "a hand held out to future generations" and predicted that, if it proved successful, "we will be able to derive as much energy from a litre of seawater as from a litre of petrol or a kilo of coal." The EU is to put up half the cost of building the reactor, with the rest evenly divided among the other parties. The project will employ 400 scientists, two-thirds of them non-French. Following years of wrangling, Japan agreed in 2005 to withdraw its bid to host the project -- in exchange for 20 percent of staff posts including the director general's job. A Japanese engineer turned ambassador, Kaname Ikeda, was named earlier this month to head the project. European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso, who was also in Paris Tuesday, called the signing "a major event" and a step forward to finding new energy sources that did not cause climate change. In a fusion reaction, energy is released when light atomic nuclei - the hydrogen isotopes deuterium and tritium - are fused together to form heavier atomic nuclei. To use controlled fusion reactions on Earth as an energy source, it is necessary to heat a gas to temperatures exceeding 100 million Celsius - many times hotter than the centre of the sun. One of the attractions of fusion is the tiny amount of fuel needed. The release of energy from a fusion reaction is 10 million times greater than from a typical chemical reaction, such as burning a fossil fuel. But the project has been criticised by environmental groups like Greenpeace, who argue that the enormous cost will suck funds away from other areas of alternative energy research, with no guarantee that an effective method of simulating and harnessing the fusion process will ever be found. ___________________ The Dragons are Gone! |
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KuribooSuper
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Bye Bye Buu ___________________ Mario's Bitch |
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BEanMicrosoft certified
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island ___________________ The sounds of DKL screaming and yelling in agony is magical and relaxing.
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Brian10488Change is a sound
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nuclear fusion won't happen.. ___________________ ![]() Let's bury the hatchet. We smoke um peace pipe! -Jerry Seinfeld |
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JayThe Pinnacle of Manliness
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We have already gotten close to achieving Nuclear Fusion. And if this plan goes through, then we will definitely achieve it. ___________________
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Brian10488Change is a sound
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meh, i still don't think it will be achieved anytime soon. ___________________ ![]() Let's bury the hatchet. We smoke um peace pipe! -Jerry Seinfeld |
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f1reburnFwoosh
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Not saying it can't be achieved, but it seems a bit perpetuum mobile-ish. |
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JayThe Pinnacle of Manliness
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LinKami DeschainRIP Yoshito Usui :-(
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better them than us. ___________________ ![]() Wii Code:0141-2992-0310-4549 Brawl Code:0602-5951-1825 |
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Knight of CydoniaThe Real Lakitu
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Not really, like any other energy-providing process it requires a "fuel", the fun part being there's enough heavy water on this earth to keep the reactor going for millions of years, and enough lithium for thousands of years. The main problem at hand is not the possibility of the process, but the possibility of us starting up such a process, bring it up to such a level where it is actually efficient and harvesting the energy while safely contain it at the same time.
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thaddiusNo crying until the end.
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Brian10488Change is a sound
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Yea, chernobyl was the worst one. ___________________ ![]() Let's bury the hatchet. We smoke um peace pipe! -Jerry Seinfeld |
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JayThe Pinnacle of Manliness
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Chernobyl had nothing to do with a fusion reactor though, so bringing that up is pointless ___________________
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thaddiusNo crying until the end.
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JayThe Pinnacle of Manliness
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Yes but a reactor meltdown is very, very unlikely with the new design of this fusion reactor ___________________
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thaddiusNo crying until the end.
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JayThe Pinnacle of Manliness
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Not once did I say I was a specialist. I'm just telling you what I have read from multiple sources, as well as my (limited, but more than most) knowlege of nuclear fusion. ___________________
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thaddiusNo crying until the end.
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JayThe Pinnacle of Manliness
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And Majinbuu ___________________
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danytocasun
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Nuclear energy ftw ___________________ dani tuga?
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Brian10488Change is a sound
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wow, you obviously don't know s*** about nuclear energy. ![]() Let's bury the hatchet. We smoke um peace pipe! -Jerry Seinfeld |
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JayThe Pinnacle of Manliness
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Go to howstuffworks.com and look up Nuclear Fusion and the new reactor that they are building. That will tell you, the likelyhood of a meltdown. It is you that clearly doesn't know much about nuclear energy ___________________
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BatistGod
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I'm a bit spectical of energy 1,000,000x more powerful then the sun. Can we really contain that? oh, and it won't happen soon because the plant won't be finished till 2018... ..yeah.. I have 12 years left to live ___________________ The Dragons are Gone! |
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thaddiusNo crying until the end.
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Drunken SaviorJeffersonian
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Wanna see where all the world's nuclear plants are? (Both operational and shut down) Click here. Personally, I think it's a good form of energy. But we can do better. |
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BatistGod
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Europe has too many nuclear plants. ___________________ The Dragons are Gone! |
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Knight of CydoniaThe Real Lakitu
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Europe needs energy, it's by far the region with highest population density in the world. People who are against nuclear power plants, often simply don't realise how much power is derived from them, and how dependent they themselves are on it too. I'm not pro-nuclear (fission) energy, but it'll take time to develop reasonable alternatives and to cut back on some of our consumption. ___________________
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