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Recommend me some books
I'm getting more interested to read, so I'm looking for some great books. So far on my must have list are:

Musashi - Eiji Yoshikawa
Taiko - Eiji Yoshikawa
Kokoro - Natsume Soseki
Resident Evil: City of Dead (based on RE2 and got to my surprise extremely good feedback)

Now I need just a few more. No Harry Potter, no Lord of the Rings, no non-fiction or books that could potentially be non-fiction.
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Some non-fiction books ARE good.

But read Kurt vonnegut. You'll love it. Read Breakfast of Champions, Cat's Cradle, Slaughterhouse-Five, and Sirens of Titan.

Read George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty Four, and Animal Farm

Naked Lunch by William S. Burroughs

The Doors of Perception by Aldous Huxley

Cosmos by Carl Sagan

Catcher in the Rye by JD Salinger is a MUST READ

Catch 22 by Joseph Heller is hilarious

Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas by Hunter S. Thompson rules hardcore.

Mark Twain. Read anything by him.


Hope that helps.
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Some non-fiction books ARE good.



They may be well written and all, but it's just that the stories don't appeal to me. I think videogames may have affected me in a way that it has become much harder to get impressed by anything.

Thanks for your suggestions. I have partially read Animal Farm and I hated it though. I guess I'm more of a fan of epic stories.

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I'd reccomend The Innocent by Harlan Coben,Samurai Boogie by Peter Tasker,One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey,The Pigman by Paul Zindel,Freak the Mighty-forgot author,The Catcher in the Rye as Shortdude said,and Fallen Angels by Walter Dean Myers.These are all great books I've read,I highly reccomend all of em.
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Thanks. Maybe someone could recommend me a book that's similar to the story of Metal Gear Solid? That's the genre that appeals most to me.
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Phillip Pullman is a gifted author and Roald Dahl's adult books are truly under appreciated. Especially My Uncle Oswald
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Life of Pi by Yann Martel (Best book EVER)

Pretty much any Discworld books (Terry Pratchett)

The Shawshank Redemption (part of the "different seasons" collection of short stories) and The Green Mile by Stephen King.

The His Dark Materials trilogy by Phillip Pullman

The War of the Worlds by H.G. Wells

Notes from a Big Country, A Walk in the Woods, The life and Times of the Thunderbolt Kid and Neither Here nor There by Bill Bryson.

If you can get past some unorthodox writing styles, Midnight's Children by Salman Rushdie is excellent

And shortdude is right, some non-fiction books are excellent. If you're into science in any way, get A Short History of Nearly Everything by Bill Bryson, it's very entertaining.

Wild Swans by Jung Chang is technically non-fiction, but take my word for it, buy this book. It will be money you won't regret spending.

The Zombie Survival Guide is a great read too, although it's not exactly non-fiction.


No Harry Potter



Have you read any of them (and I mean really read, not watched the movies or listened to the opinions of others?) If you have and decided you didn't like it, cool. But if you haven't, get the first one from a library and give it a try. If it appeals to you, trust me, you won't regret it.
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Damn,I'm not sure if I've read a book that has a crazy of a story as MGS does,but if there's a book slightly similar in the sense of it then definitely check out Samurai Boogie,its a detective thriller,here's the story line:

Publisher's Weekly

Let's take this out on a limb. Let's say Tasker's third novel (after Silent Thunder and Buddha Kiss) set in urban Japan in the 1990s is one of the best hardboiled detective novels ever written. Let's say Tasker himself is one of the smartest writers in the genre: book smart, in the remarkable lyrical quality of his prose or the frequent brilliance of his imagery; street-smart, like Elmore Leonard, in that his streets and the often terrible people that walk them are so mundanely real; socio-economic smart, in that his dark, almost heartbreaking, depiction of Japanese society is so believable. One feels that outside the novel's action, his characters are real people leading normal lives. A Tokyo-based British writer and partner in a money management firm, Tasker puts his knowledge of Japanese business to fine use. Detective Kazuo Mori, a former youthful rebel whose indignation at social injustice has mellowed into a weary acquiescence, is a tough guy only when necessary. He gets his information by deception, pretending to be a figure of authority. His investigation into the alleged natural death of a government official leads him into the most secret places in Japanese society: corporate files. Angel, a young woman he rescues from a Yakuza boss, may appear to be a damsel in distress, but God help anyone who crosses her. Both she and Mori are pursued by a Yakuza hitman, George the Wolf Nishio, who like so many of Leonard's criminals is frighteningly real. The publicity citing U.K. reviews plays up the Japanese manga comic books angle, but this is pure American hardboiled and it's outstanding.



And I believe there is a MGS Graphic Novel available,in readable form and a Digital Graphic Novel for PSP,so if you cant get enough of MGS, then look into those,just wait for the MGSDGN to drop in price first.

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Pariguayo

Damn,I'm not sure if I've read a book that has a crazy of a story as MGS does,but if there's a book slightly similar in the sense of it then definitely check out Samurai Boogie,its a detective thriller,here's the story line:


And I believe there is a MGS Graphic Novel available,in readable form and a Digital Graphic Novel for PSP,so if you cant get enough of MGS, then look into those,just wait for the MGSDGN to drop in price first.



I've looked all the suggestions up on amazon and Samurai Boogie is the one that appealed to me most. I'll give it a try.

And about Harry Potter, I just hate the whole setting and characters.

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Some really excellent books were recommended in this thread, but not many took the original poster's tastes in consideration. You don't go from Samurai and Videogames novels to Hunter Thompson just like that, come on guys!


Some acclaimed scientific and geopolitical thriller authors like Tom Clancy, John Grisham and Michael Crichton may have served as inspiration for the Metal Gear story (directly or indirectly via their theatrical adaptations). I haven't read much of those though, so I am no expert on the subject.

There are also many novelizations of popular videogames and movies franchises, like Halo or Starwars. If you liked the story of Eternal Darkness, that was an hommage to H.P. Lovecraft's universe, so give his short novels a try.


And Lord of the Rings is definitely very epic.
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kinopio

Some really excellent books were recommended in this thread, but not many took the original poster's tastes in consideration. You don't go from Samurai and Videogames novels to Hunter Thompson just like that, come on guys!


Some acclaimed scientific and geopolitical thriller authors like Tom Clancy, John Grisham and Michael Crichton may have served as inspiration for the Metal Gear story (directly or indirectly via their theatrical adaptations). I haven't read much of those though, so I am no expert on the subject.

There are also many novelizations of popular videogames and movies franchises, like Halo or Starwars. If you liked the story of Eternal Darkness, that was an hommage to H.P. Lovecraft's universe, so give his short novels a try.


And Lord of the Rings is definitely very epic.



Finaly, thank you so much!! I just loved the story of Eternal Darkness.

I've seen the movies of Lord of the Rings though and it was pretty boring imo (storywise)

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And about Harry Potter, I hate the whole setting and characters.



How would you know you didn't like the characters if you hadn't read it?

I'm not one of these obsessive fans who can't accept that someone else doesn't like their favourite book series (or movie or whatever) I just don't like to dismiss something unless I've tried it, and I guess I project that onto other people. So I'm not trying to pressure you or anything. Just don't judge the books by the movies or the merchandise saturation (which I will admit would probably have turned me off anything to do with Harry Potter if I hadn't gotten into the series before all that started).

Oh yeah, and REALLY do check out Life of Pi if you're at the library some time. Seriously, it's fantastic.

I've thought of a few more books if you're in the mood for humour:

Either The Dilbert Principal or The Dilbert Future by Scott Adams. They're both hilarious and the latter has a very interesting "serious" chapter at the end.


Maybe someone could recommend me a book that's similar to the story of Metal Gear Solid? That's the genre that appeals most to me.



Something like a Tom Clancy book would be the closest I can think of, although I find everything written by him to be boring as hell.

I've seen the movies of Lord of the Rings though and it was pretty boring imo (storywise)



Then don't go near the books, trust me. I quite liked the movies but I just couldn't get into any of them (or anything by Tolkien, come to that)
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Digital Fortress by Dan Brown

Tales of the Otori, a series of fantasy books based on feudal Japan. Very good reads.
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Iris

How would you know you didn't like the characters if you hadn't read it?

I'm not one of these obsessive fans who can't accept that someone else doesn't like their favourite book series (or movie or whatever) I just don't like to dismiss something unless I've tried it, and I guess I project that onto other people. So I'm not trying to pressure you or anything. Just don't judge the books by the movies or the merchandise saturation (which I will admit would probably have turned me off anything to do with Harry Potter if I hadn't gotten into the series before all that started).



The setting just doesn't appeal to me. It looks similar to Road Dahl's books which I actually did read. I thought they were horrible.

Oh yeah, and REALLY do check out Life of Pi if you're at the library some time. Seriously, it's fantastic.



I'll do that Smile

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A friend of mine got be Kurt Vonnegut's "Welcom to the Monkey House" for my birthday. I'll let you know how it is after I read it, but she says its amazing and she usually has a pretty awesome taste in books and stuff.
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The Godfather, Harry Potter, and Hanging Curve all have Metal Gear storylines. Read them.

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Karen Traviss. She's a former military journalist and when it comes to hard military sci-fi she definitely knows what she's doing. And even more surprising, the best thing I enjoy about her books--especially her Republic Commando (Hard Contact, Triple Zero) and Star Wars: Legacy of the Force (Bloodlines) books--is how well she treats and develops characters. You'd be surprised just how amazingly she created the Clone Commandos into believable and realistic characters.

She also has her own original sci-fi series, the Wess'har wars (City of Pearl, Crossing the Line, The World Before, and Matriarch). I haven't gotten around to reading them yet, but they've been very positively reviewed.

And also just to give you an example of this author's incredible talent and intelligence, she's done an incredible job of practically creating and designing the Mandolorian language (Mando'a) for her Star Wars books.
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"A Short History of Nearly Everything" and "Cosmos" sound awesome. I would appreciate more suggestions like that. I did say no non-fiction, but I meant only regarding novels.
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1) We Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will be Killed With Our Families: Stories from Rwanda -- Amazon --
2) Blue Like Jazz -- Amazon --
3) The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists -- Amazon -- (Although i dont recomend the life of a pickup artist, its just an interesting read into what women are like sorta, and an entertaining story)

Those are just the ones ive read recently ("We Wish to Inform You..." is my favorite book of all time, must read)
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Read the best book ever written.











































BOOM!

2 actually.

"The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz" by Mordecai Richler

and

"Crime and Punishment" by Fyodor Dostoevsky


Trust me, their fantastic.
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Digital Fortress by Dan Brown

Tales of the Otori, a series of fantasy books based on feudal Japan. Very good reads.


Fuck yeah, that's the stuff. I haven't finished them yet though, I never picked up number 3. Across The Nightingale Floor and Grass For His Pillow were both awesome though.
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Definitely check out Running With Scissors: A Memoir by Augusten Burroughs is really hilarious and twisted...You wouldn't believe the crap that happened to this guy. I read the book way before I even knew the movie was coming out, which looks like crap by the way. The thing that's great about this book is that it's so surreal, yet it happened. Really funny though.

Also, another one of my favorites is The Jungle by Upton Sinclaire. Why a book detailing the horrors that occurred in the turn of the century Chicago meat packing district is my favorite book of all time is a mystery to me. It follows a recently immigrated Lithuanian family and their desperate struggle to rise above poverty amongst horrible living conditions, contrasted with the elite in Chicago. Oh yeah and the stuff about the meat packing factories is really gross and cool. This book sparked the formation of the FDA. The story is made up though the stuff about the factories is true.
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gonestarfishing



Also, another one of my favorites is The Jungle by Upton Sinclaire. Why a book detailing the horrors that occurred in the turn of the century Chicago meat packing district is my favorite book of all time is a mystery to me. It follows a recently immigrated Lithuanian family and their desperate struggle to rise above poverty amongst horrible living conditions, contrasted with the elite in Chicago. Oh yeah and the stuff about the meat packing factories is really gross and cool. This book sparked the formation of the FDA. The story is made up though the stuff about the factories is true.



No offence, but that sounds horrible. I have zero interest in those kind of stories.

In fact, this topic made me realize why I'm a gamer and have never given books a chance. There must definately be some that I will like though.

I just can't understand why there aren't any MGS-like books, cause that would kick ass.

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I decided to try out the Halo books. They were very well recieved, and while they may not be the best books ever written, they're more the kind of stories that appeal to me.

Has anyone read one of the books of Karen Traviss? I am very interested in those, but I would like to hear someone's opinion outside the Amazon reviews.
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There's a Splinter Cell book or two that is really good.

The Prydain Chronicles are good as well.
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Thanks. Should I read Jurassic Park? I loved the movie, and I heard the book is even better.

So now I have:

- Halo, Books 1-3 (The Flood; First Strike; The Fall of Reach)
- Resident Evil: The Umbrella Conspiracy (RE1)
- Resident Evil: City of the Dead (RE2)
- Cosmos
- A Short History of Nearly Everything
- Taiko: An Epic Novel of War and Glory in Feudal Japan
- Musashi
- Kokoro
(- Jurassic Park?)

$115 total which is pretty reasonable for 11 books. Especially considering Taiko and Musashi are near 1000 pages each.

And for the record: I can't find any of these books in the library because I live in Belgium. Maybe some of them in dutch, but I hate translations.
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YES!!!! READ JURASSIC PARK!!! Fantastic book. All of Michael Crichton's books are great reads. You can't read them twice (I've tried) but the first time through is an awesome ride.

I'm still saying that Ender's Game is the best book ever written and that if you haven't, you should, because it WILL appeal to you. Everybody who's given the book a chance has loved it, regardless of their taste in book. It can be intense at times, with a much more real violence than most science fiction offers, but it's well worth it if you can handle it. Absolutely amazing read, it shouldn't be hard to find, it's by Orson Scott Card, and it's in pretty much every bookstore ever.
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I went through a lot of reviews and summaries of Ender's game but the story just doesn't appeal to me, while Halo's story does.

Anyway, is this a good list?

- Halo, Books 1-3 (The Flood; First Strike; The Fall of Reach)
- Resident Evil: The Umbrella Conspiracy (RE1)
- Resident Evil: City of the Dead (RE2)
- Cosmos
- A Short History of Nearly Everything
- Taiko: An Epic Novel of War and Glory in Feudal Japan
- Musashi
- Kokoro
- Jurassic Park
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A lot of people have said that, but once they read it, they love it. I suggest you at least give it a shot, but hey, your loss.
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Any Orson Scott Card books is a must read.
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Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon is excellent. You wouldn't think a story about WW2 Codebreakers and modern day Data-havens would mesh, but it works really well- one of my favorite reads in awhile.
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Are the halo books actually good?
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A lot of people have said that, but once they read it, they love it. I suggest you at least give it a shot, but hey, your loss.



It's only 7$, so I'll give it a shot.

And why does Amazon suck that hard? I just made my order at Amazon and it seems that they will ship my books at 8th december. Delivery estimate: january 2007. **** that ****. Consider myself owned Frown

Anyway, I'm going to make a second order next month, so every suggestion is still welcome. I cancelled the Halo books, so once again I'll ask if they're any good.

btw are the mass market paperback books of good quality? I might actually wait 10 years or even more before I get to reading one of the books and I'm buying them with that in mind.

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Get Across The Nightingale Floor- it's the first in the series that Cubi recommended. The writing is basically a love story, but it's set in a pseudo-mythical Japan with samurai and ninja clans etc. Really good stuff.
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Has anyone read Dune by Frank Herbert? I heard it's pretty good.
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Yes, get Dune. Brilliant book, but you might struggle with it if you're not used to reading, as it goes long periods of time without dialogue. I suggest building your way up to Dune.
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Thanks. Those really are the kind of books that interest me. I didn't like the first suggestions at all (no offence).

Which stories by H.P. Lovecraft should I read? Are they actually books or just short stories?

btw I'm giving up lots of games to get the money for these books, I hope it's worth it.
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And why does Amazon suck that hard? I just made my order at Amazon and it seems that they will ship my books at 8th december. Delivery estimate: january 2007. **** that ****. Consider myself owned



It never takes as long as it says to ship anything from Amazon. My orders usually ship within a week.

And read Ender's Game, it rocks. I should have said that at the start, but it slipped my mind.
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It never takes as long as it says to ship anything from Amazon. My orders usually ship within a week.



Really? How long does Amazon tell you to wait before they ship? Same as me, 2 months?


And read Ender's Game, it rocks. I should have said that at the start, but it slipped my mind.



Definately. Looks like I'm starting to build up a pretty nice book collection Smile

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Lovecraft's books are usually collections of short stories relating to the same universe. Get The Call of Cthulhu or something like that.

Dune is awesome, but like Pelican said don't expect much fast paced action and stuff. Also Dune is actually just the first book (or first two depending on editions, so beware of that) in a much longer series.

IIRC Lost World is just as good if not actually better than Jurassic Park. So get both, eventually.

A last thing: Have you considered Stephen King?
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Dune is awesome, but like Pelican said don't expect much fast paced action and stuff. Also Dune is actually just the first book (or first two depending on editions, so beware of that) in a much longer series.

IIRC Lost World is just as good if not actually better than Jurassic Park. So get both, eventually.



I'll just read the first book of each and order more if I like them.


A last thing: Have you considered Stephen King?



I've read summaries of his books and they're the kind of horror stories I don't like.

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Really? How long does Amazon tell you to wait before they ship? Same as me, 2 months?



Yeah, always some ridiculous amount of time that turns out to be way off. It will probably take longer or shorter to arrive depending on where you live (I'm in Ireland and it's about 7-9 days on average).

I don't know how it goes if you're planning on getting a bunch of stuff at the same time, the most I ever buy is 2 items.

I've read summaries of his books and they're the kind of horror stories I don't like.



I don't like Stephen King's horror books, but his other stuff is great. Make sure to read The Shawshank Redemption (or Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption, to give it it's full title). It's only a novella, but it's better than most other full-legnth books I've ever read. The Dark Tower series is also good, albeit extremely odd in places.

IIRC Lost World is just as good if not actually better than Jurassic Park. So get both, eventually.



How similar are the books to the movies?
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Yes I was thinking more of King's non horror fictions (Shawshank Redemption, The Green Mile,...)


Jurassic Park is about the same as the movie from what I remember, apart from the obvious minor changes, more detailed explanations, and an additional character dying in the book.

Lost World is completely different from the movie. I recall the storyline starting vaguely the same, but the rest has nothing to do with the entertaining but nonetheless crappy King Kong rip-off the movie sequel was.
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I remember enjoying The Lost World a ton more than the movie itself. I read it back in 7th grade though so I dunno!
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There are 2 versions of The Lost World. One of Michael Crichton and one of Arthur Conan Doyle and Michael Crichton. The latter one got a better rating and is supposedly the original version. So which one am I exactly looking for?
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Crichton only wrote the preface for this edition of the Conan Doyle book. It's a good adventure novel, written circa 1900, but it is not Jurassic Park related.
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I liked the original Jurassic Park book...beat Lost World, Congo, Adromeda Strain and Prey easily.
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I still haven't read The Stand by Steven King yet...

I've only heard good things about it though. Can I get a brief summerization of what it's about?
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