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EchoMorphsapientBanned
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Star Fox 2 = Crap? (Achtung, baby: I'm basing all of this on a video I saw on G4TechTV last night (on the show Cinematech), and I'm pretty sure this is the E3 2004 trailer. If anyone saw that too last night, can you confirm or deny this please? Thanks.)OK, I tried to have an open mind about Starfox 2, but last night I saw what I can only assume is the 2004 E3 video, and I was HEAVILY disappointed. Instead of just bashing on the game (and pissing people off), I'm going to do an in-depth preview of what I think sucks. So here we go: GRAPHICS: I really don't know where to begin, so I'll just say this. When I got my first glimpse of Fox in the video, I thought he looked like a $7.99 stuffed toy. This new "100% attitude" design is just RETARDED. It makes Fox, look stupid, plain and simple. The other character models are decent, however they may be the only decent-looking things in this entire game, once you consider the ugly vehicles and the bland, uninspired enviroments. Also, in the on-foot mode, the animations are horribly busted! I'll use Krystal as an example (because it was most apparent with her). OK, picture a semi-OK model of Krystal holding a bazooka. Now, make the body move fast, but make her legs move faster. Then give her the ability to tilt her torso while holding the bazooka in all directions WHILE maintaining her top speed. It just looks BUSTED. I can't really say anymore about the graphics, but I was SERIOUSLY expecting more. AUDIO: OK, I don't have much to say here so I'll make it quick. The SFX are decent, if not generic. The music in the video was a techno remix of the SSB:M Venom arrangement, except preformed on 5 cheapass Casio keyboards. And since when did Fox sound exactly like Sonic in SA2:Battle? The voice acting is pure crap, and it is making me look forward to skipping the cutscenes, which I did not originally intend to do. Plus Fox says the most retarded things I have ever heard, such as "Who am I? I'm Fox, Fox McCloud, and DON'T FORGET IT!". It is extremely ear grating. I hope the Namco sound designer gets hit by a car. GAMEPLAY: Here's what might be the most dissapointing thing of all. You have 2 modes: in a vehicle (Arwing or Landmaster) or on foot. Neither look really exciting. The Arwing mode looks OK, I mean it looks to be solid, but it doesn't seem to excite much. I'm sensing a lot of unwanted repetivity. I think this has to do with the bland levels. There is no stand-out level that makes me want to go play this game. I haven't seen enough of the LandMaster to pass decent judgment, but I have very low expectations for it. As for the on-foot mode, don't EVEN get me started. I don't see how this will be fun; the aiming's busted, the speed is too slow, the weapons are boring/unbalanced and the levels are uninspired/repetitive. This is a crying shame, folks. This doesn't pass for gameplay, this is just pure crap. OVERALL: First the sub-par GC Ridge Racer, and now this. I don't think that Namco is ready for the current generation of consoles. (Yes, I know about SC2. That must have been a fluke.) Before you think I'm bashing on this game, please know that THIS WAS THE GAME I WAS MOST LOOKING FORWARD TO. It really is dissapointing to me, and a lot of Star Fox fans to see how Namco can ruin one of our favorite franchises. I could say more bad things about Namco, but instead I'll leave with this genuis quote by our very own Sonicblue:
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Ragnar DanneskjöldFriend of the Friendless
Posts: 18,112 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Houston |
Actually im all hyped for it now, After i saw all those videos i think this game has potential. ___________________ I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. -Thomas Jefferson, |
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MattyFLet's Go Shopping
Posts: 5,012 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: I have no home |
Ok your basing this on the E3 2003 video I think not E3 2K4. This game has potential. Plus, Cinematech doesn't exactly show off the best stuff in the games. |
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TsuunePiranha Plant
Posts: 235 Join Date: Jun 2004 |
It needs work but hopefully they won't put it out before it's ready. It still could be a killer game. |
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EchoMorphsapientBanned
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SlyFoxFwoosh
Posts: 499 Join Date: Jun 2004 |
This game looks like $hit!!!. I am now just waiting for Nintendo's word on Starfox Adventures 2. When is it coming out so we can have another good Starfox game. So far Starfox 2 looks so dumb and would need a major graphics overhaul and animations need some heavy work. But if I know Nintendo they will screw this one up and just fix it in the next game in the series. |
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BuzzJiveMore WiiWare
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Did you ever even play Star Fox 64? Did you play multi-player with the on-foot guys? Aiming is not "busted", it's done just like SF64, which I think is a good thing. I also wish people would come up with better descriptions than "bland" and "uninspired". They are the most overused words on videogame forums ever. You've seen glimpses of the game. Wathing glimpses of Star Fox 64 would be just about as lame. Is it supposed to have more to it than a game from last generation? Yes - and it does. Would I complain if it had the best looking graphics this gen? Heck no, but I don't care about the graphics. If it's as fun as Star Fox 64 was, I'm set. And from all the videos I've seen, I see nothing that shouts "this game isn't fun". When I see a video that looks unfun - I'll be worried. Until then I'll just hope for the best. There are almost 4 months until the game releases. Having a Star Fox = Crap poll now seems stupid. |
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GameOver?????
Posts: 1,454 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azeroth |
After playing the game @ E32K4 I must say I do feel better about the game than when it was announced at E32K3. The game was quite fun, I must admit. |
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EchoMorphsapientBanned
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nennedIs she worth it?
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StarFoxEternityString Dance
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You're full of it Echo. You cannot judge an E3 video for the full game. Remember, it's Namco. They will pull this one off. If YOU'RE still in denial then you should wait for the completed version and give it a rent. Otherwise, shut your mouth. Vaya con dios... ___________________ ![]() |
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leafs rule#1
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Judging be your description, Im gonna guess you watched the E3 2003 video. Fox didnt say "Who am I? Im Fox" in the E3 2004 trailer. And most impressions say that the E3 2004 version was alot better than the 2003 version. Click here to see the E3 2004 trailer Also, the voice actors in the E3 build was done by game testers(or something). Its not final. Click here to see the 2nd E3 2004 trailer(which is better IMO) ___________________ ![]()
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AndrewLook Out Below!
Posts: 3,478 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland |
Uh.. SFA was complete suck. On the sucking scale, it ranked a nice "I SUCK FOR A LIVING". |
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Radical_BakuryuLakitu
Posts: 1,630 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada |
I'm excited for this game, and I might end up buying it now that Resident Evil 4 has been put on hold for a couple more months. I can't wait to give it a go, because I'm sure Namco will pull through. And the gameplay looks like great fun to me, but I've been craving a shooter for a while. I was only planning to ask for it for Christmas (and know for sure that I wouldn't be getting it), but now I just might be getting it. Watching those videos again was just enough to put the faith back into me. |
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MetroidHunterLakitu Posts: 8,614 Join Date: Mar 2003 |
I'm looking forward to it. Really could it get any worse than Starfox Adventures? |
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EchoMorphsapientBanned
Posts: 2,683 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Texas (Yes, it sucks.) |
I've played SFA in a store for around 5 minutes, and I'm thinking of buying it later this month. Is it REALLY that bad? |
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ShivanNerd Posts: N/A Join Date: N/A |
The game is looking alright to me... ___________________ Credit Cards Canadian Credit Cards Best Credit Card Deals |
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C.WhiteBanned
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I don't know what is wrong with your eyes because this game looks 5Xs as fun as StarFox 64 |
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rexforeverUkiki
Posts: 953 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah |
I think the game can be really fun. Obviously they badly need to fix the graphics. Fox looks like a smooth peice of plastic. If they want this game to be a succses then they have to put in the effort. They got plenty of time to polish it up. ___________________
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StarFoxEternityString Dance
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gramathyNaïve Buttface
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SFA had too much collecting of stuff. And I didn't like the fighting, I wanted something a little more freeform. SF2 will own the GC lineup this year. ___________________ THIS SPACE FOR RENT |
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MattyFLet's Go Shopping
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CJ ThunderWhycan'tIleavethisblank? Posts: 10,400 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SoCal |
And it looks really fun and its even got the ACE people behind it...but still this is another game made by Namco were it seems... I dunno for this I want it to be good so I am just going to wait and see. |
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Pojois it?
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You'd better believe it. It's a boring adventure game. You'd make out better picking up Sphinx or something for $5. |
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ShivanNerd Posts: N/A Join Date: N/A |
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StarFoxEternityString Dance
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BuzzJiveMore WiiWare
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Pojois it?
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My problem is the game. It sucks. |
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BuzzJiveMore WiiWare
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octorok and rollhas a very loud thumb
Posts: 19,509 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Austin, Texas |
If you think the game sucks because of a trailer you saw on G4, then you don't deserve to have the game. Impressions of the game this year were mostly positive, and craploads of gameplay footage I saw looked outstanding. ___________________ Quote of the Month:
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sonicblueThundercougarfalconbird
Posts: 20,230 Join Date: May 2002 Location: South Florida |
Four months from now is December. I thought this game was due out in October? And speaking of it's imminent release, shouldn't we be seeing some new screens, interviews, previews, videos or boxart by now? Metroid Prime 2: Echoes already has a final name and a demo disc coming out. And Paper Mario 2 has a final name as well is already out in Japan. Where the ****ing hell is Star Fox? |
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BuzzJiveMore WiiWare
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sonicblueThundercougarfalconbird
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They didn't have much last year either. |
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BuzzJiveMore WiiWare
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WazzupyAll The World Is Mad
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Regarding SF2, I think that you're either interested in it or you're not. Personally, I can't wait for it to come out. But, for people who don't give a crap about it, that's nice, but us who do, don't care. |
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Pojois it?
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If you were directing that towards me, I was talking about SFA, not SF2. |
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DayLahsWill Never Be Another
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Code_LinkBeckinsale's Ho
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Wii Love Kate-amary! |
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DarkdolphinN-Phile
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SFA was at least an above average game. It's not one of the best adventure games on the system, but its definetley not horrible either. It got repetative, but it didn't drag on or get to the point where I didn't want to keep playing it. The collecting wasn't as bad as some make it out to be. At this point, I'm not looking forward to Namco's Star Fox, but I doubt it will be released this year anyway. I'll wait until I see impressions of a more complete build of it. |
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SouzetsuReady to Fly
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AndrewLook Out Below!
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where is pikmin 2 in all of this release madness? ___________________ When people look like ants- pull When ants look like people- pray |
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djsilvertigerSo Very Clever
Posts: 2,318 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Southern California |
I'm really looking forward to this game. I've own the SNES and N64 Star Fox games and will surely own this. The judging on the video is stupid. 2/3 of what you said had nothing to do with the gameplay. Which is what makes SF so popular. I admit I didn't like the voices one bit when I heard them. Which is why I was relieved to hear that those were not and would not be the final voices. The main concern that I'm sure they can fix is what people are calling the "floaty" movement of the arwing. I'm good. Suck it up. God Blessa! ___________________ PSN: IsntChrisL XBL: IsntChrisL |
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Pojois it?
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Ok, so maybe it's merely average. Mediocre is a better way to put it. The graphics are gorgeous, but everything else is standard. Oh, and the flight scenes are *edited*.
A few weeks away. |
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StreethawkIIBanned
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I have no idea how 14 people can vote "no way dude lolz" when the game is 4 months away from being released and all we've seen is a few 10 second movies and some screen shots. |
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sonicblueThundercougarfalconbird
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I've seen at least 30 minutes of footage and I've read countless previews and hands-on impressions. |
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SouzetsuReady to Fly
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sonicblueThundercougarfalconbird
Posts: 20,230 Join Date: May 2002 Location: South Florida |
It's all at IGN. And I probably exaggerated with 30 minutes. 15 minutes sounds right though. Not "a few 10 second clips." |
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SouzetsuReady to Fly
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I still think it looks good from the footage I've seen. |
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SlyFoxFwoosh
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KJ-01Boo
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Ahh, I've been mislead! I answered the poll to the topic name... |
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