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NerdThursday, September 28th 2006.

HubertCumberdale

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Am I the only one who doesn't know what console to get?
Warning: don't take this post too seriously, I'm high.

I thought I was getting a Wii, but I'm afraid I will end up storing it in my closet about 2 years after purchasing it.. I'm afraid Nintendo will get BIG for its launch and then after that.. Sony will dominate the game market by releasing good titles, such as MGS, DMC, FF series, etc...

So now I'm stuck. I can't really afford a PS3 (I mean, I could.. but 600$.. wow?) and I'm afraid spending my money on the Wii be wasted.

I don't know why I ask this on this site (too many nintendo fanboys) but I honestly don't know where else to post this. This also brings in another point.. Why all the fanboys? Why the sony and nintendo fanboys? You know what you guys are? Newbies.. Honestly, get over yourselves.. It's about what's best, not about what company makes the system. Come on.. I've grown up with every nintendo console but i'm not some close-minded ignorant tard who praises everything nintendo makes and everytime i see something about sony or ps3 i have to make negative comments.. I mean, besides, anyone who knows anything about video games knows the X-box is in general, pretty bad.. X-box live sucks, X-box games suck, the system sucks.. I have one, it's ok!

It's almost like religion TBH, I go to the "other consoles" forum and I see a bunch of junk like "hahaha PS3 games are 100$! SUCKERS!".. I mean what is that? You're the same kind of people that ruin this world w/ religion (had to conclude that terrible analogy..)

Anyway, what's the deal w/ that? Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

And someone who has lots of console knowledge/experience recommend me which console I should buy and why (Dont bother recommending me the X-box360.. Unless it's now modable..). I know who you nintendo fanboys are so don't even bother if you're one of them!..
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kinopio

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The 360 is easily moddable. Double layer medias are still a little too expensive though.


My advice would just be to wait. Take the wait and see approach and get the system with the most games that interest you.
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DayLahs

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first time on the net?

as of right now the system to own for next generation is the xbox360 cause it has tons of games and xboxlive is awesome(**** what you may think). If you dont wanna pay for a PS3, just buy a PS2(130.00) cause it has more games then any system ever and it has a variety. This way when the PS3 goes down in price you will have a ton of games since its backward compatible. If you want a wii but are going to store it away, then it isnt the system for you, but if you want a next gen system its the one to get for the price and the different experience.

if you still cant make a decision then get a nintendo DS and call it a day.
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Assman

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Jesus......
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VGlegends

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Answer these questions and I will give you an answer:

1) What is your favorite game genre?

2)What games did you like last gen?

3) What multimedia functions would you like in your console?

4)Do you want to download games to you console?

5)How much do you want to spend?

6)Do you like online play?

7)Do you own a HD TV?

8)Do you want a great upgrade in the graphical quality of your games?

9)What games do you like in the next-gen that you have seen?

10)Do you like party games?
NerdThursday, September 28th 2006.

HubertCumberdale

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DayLahs

first time on the net?

as of right now the system to own for next generation is the xbox360 cause it has tons of games and xboxlive is awesome(**** what you may think). If you dont wanna pay for a PS3, just buy a PS2(130.00) cause it has more games then any system ever and it has a variety. This way when the PS3 goes down in price you will have a ton of games since its backward compatible. If you want a wii but are going to store it away, then it isnt the system for you, but if you want a next gen system its the one to get for the price and the different experience.

if you still cant make a decision then get a nintendo DS and call it a day.



My X-box live quote applied only to the original X-box. My friend used to play all the time and it was honestly, a joke. I was going to buy an x-box because I heard Marvel vs Capcom 2 was going to be played competitively on it but it eventually got canceled because the game can't be played while it being balanced due to lag (That's what I heard anyway..). What is so good about X-box Live for the 360? I've heard nothing about, which is generally pretty bad..

And for the Wii - It's not like I want to store it in my closet. I'm just afraid the Wii will have some good titles early and then fail to keep its momentum (Much like the gamecube)

Are all three consoles compatible w/ online play? Are they finnaly taking online console gaming to the next level (Actually developping a community w/ competitive games..etc?) Or is the online play on console still a joke?
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Online is overated.
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DayLahs

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HubertCumberdale

What is so good about X-box Live for the 360? I've heard nothing about, which is generally pretty bad..




you gotta be joking or something. You cant tell me you have heard NOTHING about it.

live arcade?
achievements?
Dashboard?


do some ****ing research jeez

NerdThursday, September 28th 2006.

VGlegends

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HubertCumberdale

My X-box live quote applied only to the original X-box. My friend used to play all the time and it was honestly, a joke. I was going to buy an x-box because I heard Marvel vs Capcom 2 was going to be played competitively on it but it eventually got canceled because the game can't be played while it being balanced due to lag (That's what I heard anyway..). What is so good about X-box Live for the 360? I've heard nothing about, which is generally pretty bad..

And for the Wii - It's not like I want to store it in my closet. I'm just afraid the Wii will have some good titles early and then fail to keep its momentum (Much like the gamecube)

Are all three consoles compatible w/ online play? Are they finnaly taking online console gaming to the next level (Actually developping a community w/ competitive games..etc?) Or is the online play on console still a joke?



Silver and Gold

With the launch of the Xbox 360, Microsoft's online gaming service, Xbox Live went through a major upgrade, adding a basic non-subscription service, Silver, to its already established premium subscription-based service, Gold. Xbox Live Silver is free of charge and allows users to create a user profile, join on message boards, access Microsoft's Xbox Live Arcade and Marketplace and talk to other members.[15] An Xbox Live Silver account does not generally support multiplayer gaming; however, some games that feature their own subscription service (such as Final Fantasy XI) can be played with a Silver account. Xbox Live supports voice communication along with video communication, a feature possible with the Xbox Live Vision Camera.[16]

Xbox Live Gold has the same features as Silver, plus online game playing capabilities. Microsoft has allowed for previous Xbox Live subscribers to maintain their profile information, friends list, and games history when they make the transition to Xbox Live Gold. To transfer an Xbox Live account to the new system, users need to link a Windows Live ID to their gamertag on Xbox.com.[17] When users go to add a Xbox Live enabled profile to their console, they need to provide the console with their passport account information and the last four digits of their credit card number, which is used for verification purposes and billing. An Xbox Live Gold account generally costs $49.99 USD,[18] $59.99 CDN,[18] £39.99 Pounds Sterling, €59.99 per year.


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Main article: Xbox Live Marketplace

The Xbox Live Marketplace is a virtual market designed for Microsoft's Xbox 360 console that allows Xbox Live subscribers to download purchased or promotional content. The service offers movie and game trailers, game demos, Xbox Live Arcade games, gamer tag images, and Xbox 360 Dashboard themes. These features are available to both silver and gold members on Xbox live. To purchase the products off market place a hard drive is needed to store the products.[19] In order to download priced content, users are required to purchase Microsoft Points for use as scrip.[20] Not all products have a price, as some are free to download.
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Xbox Live Arcade is an online service operated by Microsoft that is used to distribute arcade video games to Xbox and Xbox 360 owners. In addition to classic arcade games, the service offers some new original games. As well as games from other consoles, such as the Genesis title, Sonic the Hedgehog or the PlayStation's Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. The service was first launched in late 2004[21] and offers games for about $5 to $15 USD in Microsoft Points. In late 2005, Xbox Live Arcade was re-launched with the release of the Xbox 360 in which new games and features were offered. The games are generally aimed toward more casual gamers, examples of some of the more popular among them are Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved,[22] Street Fighter II' Hyper Fighting,[23] and UNO.[24]
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NerdThursday, September 28th 2006.

Old School Gamer

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Bazooka

Online is overated.



Negative.

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Brian10488

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next gen pretty much = online. Honestly, online on xbox live is an amazing experience. I love just going on it and playing UNO or Ghost recon with a buddy. (i like to play with bobsweeny..orangeade? because he's ****ing hilarious). The marketplace is just phenomenal. Downloading new trailers, demos, and arcade games is a great feature. This is great if you're thinking about buying a game, but still aren't sure. Of course, not every game has a demo. The fact that you can play a part of an awesome game that is months and months away from release is freakin awesome (i.e Lost Planet).

The whole Xbox Live Experience is great, and I recommend it to u hubert. And I doubt you'll regret that decision.
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NerdSunday, October 1st 2006.

HubertCumberdale

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That does sound pretty sexy...
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NerdSunday, October 1st 2006.

HubertCumberdale

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VGlegends

Answer these questions and I will give you an answer:

1) What is your favorite game genre?

2)What games did you like last gen?

3) What multimedia functions would you like in your console?

4)Do you want to download games to you console?

5)How much do you want to spend?

6)Do you like online play?

7)Do you own a HD TV?

8)Do you want a great upgrade in the graphical quality of your games?

9)What games do you like in the next-gen that you have seen?

10)Do you like party games?



1. I like all kinds of games, as long as they are good. Action, Adventure, Puzzle, RTS, FPS, RPG, etc I play it all.. But I can tell when a game is good, and when a game is bad/cheap I drop it asap :|

2. there was not many games that stood out that much :

3. i dont care, i just want good games

4. yes

5. dont care as long as its good

6. yes i love playing games competitively

7. no

8. no i look only for gameplay

9. Metal Gear Solid, Mario, Assassin's Creed, Afrika, DMC. I haven't seen much at all though, so not a very fair question.

10. yes Smile
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NerdSunday, October 1st 2006.

moose

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Wii and PS2 seems to be the way to go, if you didn't get a PS2 this generation already.

Otherwise, stick with Wii until PS3 proves itself or 360 drops in price.
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Iris

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I thought I was getting a Wii, but I'm afraid I will end up storing it in my closet about 2 years after purchasing it.. I'm afraid Nintendo will get BIG for its launch and then after that.. Sony will dominate the game market by releasing good titles, such as MGS, DMC, FF series, etc...



Just because Sony releases good games doesn't mean Nintendo won't as well. I think the whole "Wii60" has a lot of merit, they seem like the best choices this generation.
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Matt_M

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Here's a doozy: I have an HD TV with VGA inputs- should I splurge on a 360 (around $400), or just buy a new video card/power supply (around $200) and enjoy my existing software at higher resolutions on the new TV?

I really like the (admittedly non-innovative) 360 Holiday lineup, and especially Live Arcade, as Geometry Wars claims another victim. But that extra $200 is that many fewer Wii/DS games, crossing off my belated purchase of Hunters and Rocket Slime, and likely limiting me to just two launch titles for Wii. Also, there's a chance that MS will drop the 360 price after the Holidays.

I'm playing more PC games nowadays, but the Wii60 combo could easily draw me back.
NerdSunday, October 1st 2006.

Rocksteady

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Get an Xbox 360.

The Wii at this point seems to be in line for a huge let down, and the games suck aside from Zelda and one or two third party games.

While I too think online gaming is rather overrated, Xbox Live is incredible, I rarely use it to play other people (except in Marble Blast Ultra... damn is that fun) but there's so much more to Live then that. Demo's give you a chance to play games before you buy, and there's literally a demo for 80% of the library. Friends list, comparing achievements, Xbox Live Arcade... it's awesome. The userface is amazing.

And you can't deny that the 360 has a **** load of sweet games coming in the near (and distant) future (Banjo-Kazooie woooo).

Both the Wii and PS3 have the potential to absolutely crush everything that is great about the Xbox 360. But as of now it's a huge risk on both systems. I totally suggest not buying a PS3 if only because it has the potential to flop at the market and the potential of a price drop. Also the fact that I don't want MGS4 and FFXIII might have something to do with it.

The Xbox 360 is a nice middle man system, everyone should own one.
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Brian10488

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I've been thinking the same thing about the wii, rocksteady...but i didn't want to say anything bc i thought that the big nintendo guys would pounce on me...
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moose

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With all these:
Animal Crossing
Battalion Wars 2
Big Brain Academy
Camelot RPG
Cooking Mama: Cooking with International Friends
Donkey Kong: Bongo Blast
Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors
Elebits
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers
Fire Emblem: Goddess of Dawn
Guitar Hero
Heroes
Kirby
Madden NFL 07
Mario Kart Wii
Mario Party 8
Mario Strikers Charged
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
One Piece: Unlimited Adventure
Red Steel
Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
Super Paper Mario
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Super Swing Golf Pangya
Sword of Legendia
TNA iMPACT!
WarioWare: Smooth Moves
Wii Music
Wii Play
Wii Sports
Wii Motor Sports


For Wii I don't understand how anyone could think anything other than greatly of Wii. 360 has just as many AAA titles but it will probably be more worth it next year once it has a fully established library and a more suitable price point.

PS3 on the other hand, has nothing. Don't even consider it until we see what it's going to be putting up for holiday 2007, because as of now it has FFXIII, MGS4 (which is probably going to be ported to 360, regardless of Kojima's comments on making it for the ground up for PS3, it'll be ported), White Night Story, Shin Megami Tensei 4, and Team ICO's next game. Out of that list, only two games seem to be system sellers.

Get a Wii and PS2, and once both start to slow down, get a 360.
NerdSunday, October 1st 2006.

Rocksteady

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Wait until next year for the Xbox 360 library to be established? lol What? All of the games you listed for the Wii... about two of them are going to be available this holiday. In case you missed the Xbox 360 rack at Best Buy, the library is already established and come this holiday it's going to be over shadowing anything the Wii and PS3 has to offer (aside from maybe Zelda and Resitance).

The Wii has me excited, don't get me wrong, I mean I'll be camping out for it, which is a first for me, but Nintendo has yet to prove anything, and the launch line-up sure as hell won't either. All I see are half assed upgrades from games from the last generation. Only a few games were actually designed specifically for the Wii (and I know one of them is going to blow - Red Steel), and that's where I think Nintendo is going to run into trouble.

You're going to be playing nothing after the launch, just like the GameCube. Remember early 2002? We got Resident Evil... and what, Sonic Adventure 2: Battle? Ooooh. And everyone was playing Smash Bros. until Sunshine and Prime hit that holiday (well Sunshine hit August but whatever). But guess what? We don't have a Smash Bros. to tide us over. **** we don't even have any games online for that matter. Once you've 100% Zelda you're done. You'll test out some other random third party games like Rayman and Red Steel and then you'll shelve the Wii until Mario Galaxy, Prime 3, and Brawl hit stores in late 2007. And that's a fact.

All the while I'll be playing all the second generation, might I add gorgeous looking Xbox 360 games. Smile

But hey, that's just me.
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Pojo

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GET A WII, RETARD.

Skip on the 360 right now. It has an absolutely horrible library that won't pick up until the PS3 starts getting popular. As for the PS3, it's a PS2 that costs $600. I will get one eventually if it sells well and probably skip the 360 completely.

This generation could be a strange one, so I'm not standing by my comments. Well, aside from the one where I say that the 360 has a sucky library right now. It's horrible.
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Rocksteady

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- Call of Duty 2
- Chromehounds
- Condemned: Criminal Origins
- Dead or Alive 4
- Dead Rising
- EA Sports Fight Night Round 3
- Enchanted Arms
- Far Cry Instincts Predator
- Hitman: Blood Money
- Kameo: Elements of Power
- Oblivion
- Saints Row
- Test Drive: Unlimited
- Tomb Raider: Legends
- Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter

Are all high quality games, with plenty more by the years end. Pojo you just need to stop being so anti-western games.
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Get a 360 at the price drop, consider the Wii when the reviews come out.
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Pojo

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Rocksteady

- Call of Duty 2 3 is coming
- Chromehounds
- Condemned: Criminal Origins Good game, but is it great? Eh. Every system has a few cheap thrills like this.
- Dead or Alive 4 It's DOA, so ok
- Dead Rising Awesome game
- EA Sports Fight Night Round 3 also on...
- Enchanted Arms Coming to the PS3, but who gives a flying rat's ass anyway?
- Far Cry Instincts Predator Also on...
- Hitman: Blood Money Also on...
- Kameo: Elements of Power Cheap thrills if you still care
- Oblivion Also on...
- Saints Row Completely uninspired clone...with good controls!
- Test Drive: Unlimited also on...I think
- Tomb Raider: Legends also on...
- Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter Will be on [insert conole here] with a new version every year

Are all high quality games, with plenty more by the years end. Pojo you just need to stop being so anti-western games.

Yeah. Great exclusives. Let's see, Dead Rising, DOA4, Obliv...oh wait.

And it's been out for a year.

Completely unremarkable. However, the upcoming releases (the ones not coming to the PS3, anyway) look great. But IMO, too few to care for now. The PS3 launch has more games that I want than the whole 360 library so far. Why? Developers are waiting to see which system sells so that they can decide to pull support from Sony or stay with it.

Other than the Wii and DS, this generation blows. So effing expensive for a mere upgrade from last gen.
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Rocksteady

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Weird the two games you like... are straight from Japan!

Seriously it doesn't matter if the games are on other systems. Do I want to play Hitman on PS2 or Xbox 360? I think that's an obvious decision. They're still great games. The fact is come this holiday Xbox 360 games are in their second generation and are going to look amazing. The PS3 is a joke for $600 considering the launch line up.

And the Wii... it really is a toss up, after all the expenses is it really worth it to play one or two games that are either a) on another system (Zelda!) or b) minor upgrades from current games (Monkey Ball, Far Cry, Madden, etc. etc. etc.) I mean of course it will be worth it in late 2007, but by then maybe it flopped in the market and is in bargain bins for $50. Who really knows? The Xbox 360 is a safe bet on all grounds.
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Advance

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Get a 360.

Skip on the Wii right now. It has an absolutely horrible library that won't pick up until it starts getting popular and people figure out how to develop for it. As for the PS3, it's a PS2 that costs $600. Don't get one even if you're life depends on it.

This generation could be a strange one, so I'm not standing by my comments. Well, aside from the one where I say that the PS3 is a money pit and the Wii has a sucky library right now and for the foreseeable future. It's positively horrible.

The 360 has the established online service, whereas the Wii's probably won't have anything worth spending money on for at least a year. The 360 has been out for a year, so it's gotten all the **** out of it's system and is now ready to ramp up with some absolutely amazing titles. Venture into Other Consoles and find the thread on anticipated 360 titles. Everyone's got like 20 must buys on their list.

The Wii has a few gems, but you can get Zelda for GCN, so it's pretty much nullified. There's going to be lots of hit and miss with the system, especially early on, and you can expect most of the early stuff to outright suck or significantly underwhelm. Plus, the online service will blow chunks definitely at first since it's free, and as if I need proof, just look to the fact that nothing has been announced whatsoever outside of VC games that you can get for free on the Internet right now.

The thing about Wii online is that it might turn around and really challenge Live, or it'll suck ass and only offer the rare good experience. Might as well wait until that experience makes itself evident so you can get it at a discounted price rather than the premium you'll pay for everything now.

Plus, I'll place money right now that the Wii is the first to pricedrop. If you buy a Wii at launch, you're going to feel really stupid come next November when it drops $50 and packs in a good game (Mario?) and the Xbox 360 drops $25 or less and packs in nothing. Meanwhile, Xbox 360 will have had no less than 15 absolutely AAA titles released in the interim and you'll be lucky if the Wii hits four.

The PS3 is an absolute lost cause. You won't even see them in stores until June thanks to BR problems, and half of them will probably malfunction/implode.

Of course, in the interest of full disclosure, 360s are switching to a new chip format in Q1 2007 allegedly because of all the red ring of death nonsense, so that's something to consider, but if you spend the extra $50 on a Best Buy plan just to be safe, it's not a huge concern.
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Pojo

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I don't even like DOA4, but it's not a bad game by any stretch of the imagination, so I'm being fair.

Thumbs up

As for minor upgrades, I don't care. There will be no simple ports on the Wii, and that's very exciting. The Wii presents a totally new way to play games and I'm pumped...nay, dying to try it out. The 360 and PS3 are expensive clones that do the same garbage we've been doing for ten years now. You'll be there day one, Rock, and you'll have a blast playing Rayman, Zelda, Red Steel, Monkey Ball, and a ****load of other games that you thought you'd never play again. Everything that is old is new again with the Wii.

I'll have one (PS3 or 360), but I'm not happy about it.
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Robjomak

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The Xbox 360 is a safe bet on all grounds.




Rocksteady, when did you start praising random mediocre to lousy mainstream games in a futile attempt to defend a Microsoft console's lineup (or in this case, the lack thereof)?

Also, Pojo being Japan's whore doesn't make his criticisms invalid.

And finally, it's pretty atrociously hypocritical to say 360's graphics somehow merit paying hundreds of dollars more for a new system instead of getting the exact same game on a current console, and then turn around and say that new Wii games are merely minor upgrades from current games.

It sounds an awful lot like simple graphics whoredom because that is the only realm where your criticism even makes sense. And this implies a disturbing blindness to the actual game you're getting behind the graphical sheen. Tsk tsk.

NerdSunday, October 1st 2006.

Advance

Like the Groundhog Phil.

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Pojo

I don't even like DOA4, but it's not a bad game by any stretch of the imagination, so I'm being fair.

Thumbs up

As for minor upgrades, I don't care. There will be no simple ports on the Wii, and that's very exciting. The Wii presents a totally new way to play games and I'm pumped...nay, dying to try it out. The 360 and PS3 are expensive clones that do the same garbage we've been doing for ten years now. You'll be there day one, Rock, and you'll have a blast playing Rayman, Zelda, Red Steel, Monkey Ball, and a ****load of other games that you thought you'd never play again. Everything that is old is new again with the Wii.

I'll have one (PS3 or 360), but I'm not happy about it.



did you see what i did there copying your post and replacing it with words that contradicted everything you said

clever, eh


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Pojo

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Japan's whore? It's not my fault that they know how to make games. America owns Japan on the technical front...and that's about it.

Hell, I'm not explaining myself. I buy American games and Japanese games. I buy what I ****ing want.

And yeah, Advance. I did. I'll give you a cookie because I like you and I know you'll end up getting a Wii anyway, just like I'll somehow manage to get all three consoles. But that doesn't mean I can't rage.
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Hey Robjomak, the 360 has or will have BioShock, Dead Rising, Lost Planet, the best version of Phantasy Star Universe (gated community, bitches), Oblivion, a large number of upcoming RPGs (from *both* sides of the world), BioShock, the inevitably superior version of Guitar Hero 2, BioShock, and Resident Evil 5 -- and that's without me listing half of the stuff that most people are interested in due to the fact that I can't stand EA, Ubisoft or most developers that don't speak Japanese. Pretending that the 360 doesn't have a ****load of great games doesn't make Nintendo look better, it makes you look like an idiot.
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I say go with Wii60. Right now, it's your safest bet. Look at what you've got:

Lost Planet
Gears of War
Bio Shock
GTA Time Exclusive
Blu Dragon
Froza
Halo 3 (it SHOULD be good this time)
Assasin's Creed (It's not exclusive, but hey, you're not payin' $600 for it either)
FEAR

That should keep you plenty busy. For comparison, PS3's got what...

Resistance
Final Fantasy (yawn in my opinion but... whatever)
Metal Gear Solid
and Devil May Cry


and maybe Killzone.....eventually....

oh yeah...then there's Lair (yawn)

and White Knight Story.

And of course getting a Wii is a given. No self respecting gamer could live without Mario and Zelda.

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Pojo

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The title of this thread is misleading. It should be titled "Bitch: the thread".

I can't wait to see how badly we eat our current comments later on.
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Dragon164z

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The 360 isn't worth a purchase, yet.... but eventually I'll get one. The future lineup of games is excellent, and I already know I'll own one eventually, but right now I couldn't care less about the games it has to offer. I'm sure games like Saints Row and Dead Rising would hold me attention for a while, but after that I'd just be sitting there waiting for the real games I care about like Bioshock and Mass Effect. Gears of War looks tempting, but it really has to prove to be amazing to be a system seller for me. But considering how close it launches to the Wii, it's looking like the 360 will be a 2007 purchase for me.

The Wii is going to be more than enough to satisfy me this fall and winter, and well beyond that. It just makes sense, to get a Wii now and then a 360 later when the actually worthwhile games are out. I don't give a sh*t what anyone is saying, the Wii is a sure bet at launch. Zelda really isn't the shining beacon of hope that it once was to me, but that's just because the wait has been way too long and the lack of much real media on the game has killed most anticipation. But there is no doubt in my mind that the minute I turn the game on I'm going to forget about the x amount of months I've been waiting for the thing and be hooked. That, and a new Monkeyball with 50 f*cking minigames is more than enough for me to dish out $250.
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Pojo

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I'm over the whole "system-seller" thing. If a system doesn't have more games than I can keep up with, I won't buy it. Games just go by too quickly to bother buying a system for a handful of games.
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Halo 2 was a system seller for me, I bought an Xbox a month before Halo 2 and only bought Fable and Burnout 3 before it because it was bored waiting. Granted the Xbox was down to like $150 then, and I really enjoyed Fable and Burnout 3, but still if a game is good enough I'll buy a console for it. But Gears of War?? Probably not, and even if it's balls to the wall awesome $400 for that and like Dead Rising isn't worth it. Once I can buy a 360 and pick up Bioshock, Mass Effect, Phantasy Star Universe, Brothers in Arms, and know that Fable 2 and Halo 3 are on the way it will be well worth $400 (by then the price will have dropped, too). Plus, there is the entire Live Arcade feature and the whole thing with downloading trailers and demos which I like. But for now, it will just be a Wii.
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DayLahs

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Dragon164z

The 360 isn't worth a purchase, yet.... but eventually I'll get one. The future lineup of games is excellent, and I already know I'll own one eventually, but right now I couldn't care less about the games it has to offer. I'm sure games like Saints Row and Dead Rising would hold me attention for a while, but after that I'd just be sitting there waiting for the real games I care about like Bioshock and Mass Effect. Gears of War looks tempting, but it really has to prove to be amazing to be a system seller for me. But considering how close it launches to the Wii, it's looking like the 360 will be a 2007 purchase for me.

The Wii is going to be more than enough to satisfy me this fall and winter, and well beyond that. It just makes sense, to get a Wii now and then a 360 later when the actually worthwhile games are out. I don't give a sh*t what anyone is saying, the Wii is a sure bet at launch. Zelda really isn't the shining beacon of hope that it once was to me, but that's just because the wait has been way too long and the lack of much real media on the game has killed most anticipation. But there is no doubt in my mind that the minute I turn the game on I'm going to forget about the x amount of months I've been waiting for the thing and be hooked. That, and a new Monkeyball with 50 f*cking minigames is more than enough for me to dish out $250.




you cant be serious. Saints row and dead rising have LOTS of reply value to them and I dont think the monkeyball game is worth payin 250 for.

some of you guys are asshole blind to not see the games out and coming out for the 360. They have the best damn line up of games coming out and have amazing games already out.

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Monkey Ball worth buying a console for but not Dead Rising? What a ****ing joke.
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DayLahs

you cant be serious. Saints row and dead rising have LOTS of reply value to them and I dont think the monkeyball game is worth payin 250 for.

some of you guys are asshole blind to not see the games out and coming out for the 360. They have the best damn line up of games coming out and have amazing games already out.



I played San Andreas already, it was good. I don't need to spend $400 to play it with better graphics and controls. I'll be ready for another GTA when the real GTA is out. I have 3 friends telling me how good Saints Row is and that I should get it, I'm sure it's fun, but I don't really care about it enough to buy a console for it.

Dead Rising will last me what, a week? Then what? Monkey Ball I have the entire single player to get through and then 50 minigames for continued multiplayer action. I don't see what's so crazy about that...

And I never said Monkey Ball was the sole reason I was getting a Wii, I don't think it's worth buying a console for either. But for $250, 2 solid launch games that I have to own and more than a handful of others that I will buy in the launch window, the Wii is a solid buy at launch. Why is everyone so bitchy if someone doesn't want to buy a console until more games they want are out on it? I'm not at all blind to whats on the way to the 360, but uh they're on the way, as in not there yet. I'll buy it when they get here.

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Dinzy

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kinopio

The 360 is easily moddable. Double layer medias are still a little too expensive though.


My advice would just be to wait. Take the wait and see approach and get the system with the most games that interest you.



at less than 2 bucks a pop they really aren't that expensive.
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kinopio

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Really? they've dropped in price cause last time I could find some (months ago) they were like €10 a piece.


But seriously, the consoles aren't even out yet. Just wait and pick the system with the most interesting games when you get to. As a general rule I think last generation is a safe indication of what to expect. If you liked PS2 more I'd say PS3 is for you, if you like GCN then Wii is for you, and if you liked Xbox... LOL j/k nobody likes Xbox!
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I liked the Xbox.
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Robjomak

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Japan's whore? It's not my fault that they know how to make games. America owns Japan on the technical front...and that's about it.

Hell, I'm not explaining myself. I buy American games and Japanese games. I buy what I ****ing want.


Smile

Hey Robjomak, the 360 has or will have BioShock, Dead Rising, Lost Planet, the best version of Phantasy Star Universe (gated community, bitches), Oblivion, a large number of upcoming RPGs (from *both* sides of the world), BioShock, the inevitably superior version of Guitar Hero 2, BioShock, and Resident Evil 5 -- and that's without me listing half of the stuff that most people are interested in due to the fact that I can't stand EA, Ubisoft or most developers that don't speak Japanese.


Sounds to me like you're really interested in a full two games (and I think we all know which two Tongue). I'm not even going to count assuming superiority on multiplatform games. Now, what's an essentially doomed console that is currently being held up by the promise of two games? Oh right, the PS3...

Not saying 360 is doomed but, we're talking game libraries.

Pretending that the 360 doesn't have a ****load of great games doesn't make Nintendo look better, it makes you look like an idiot.


Hey!

I did not post this to make Nintendo look better!

That's what the other 90% of my posts are for, ass.

The nerve of some people.

The title of this thread is misleading. It should be titled "Bitch: the thread".


I want one of those, and stickied.

some of you guys are asshole blind to not see the games out and coming out for the 360.


Indeed I cannot see out of my asshole, DayLahs. I unfortunately don't see Microsoft coming to attempt to sodomize me/get me to buy a PC in a box 2.0.

They have the best damn line up of games coming out


No way. That's a ridiculous claim and you know it.

and have amazing games already out.


Debatable, but in any case, it was the first one out, it's kind of the only one eligible for this praise at the moment.

Monkey Ball worth buying a console for but not Dead Rising? What a ****ing joke.


A zombie killing game vs perhaps the best party game series in existence? Bad comparison.

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moose

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Cooking Mama: Cooking with International Friends, Elebits, Madden NFL 07, One Piece: Unlimited Adventure, Red Steel, Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz, Trauma Center: Second Opinion, WarioWare: Smooth Moves, Wii Play, and Wii Sports are all launch window games, and all look hella' fun.

Zelda = Resistance = Gears of War.

All of them will offer awesome experiences and definitely each system's key title this holiday season.

Otherwise... what does 360 have? Oblivion has been out and is available on PC, Bioshock isn't going to be available until the next slew of Wii games, Banjo Threeie is going to be **** unless Rare really pulls a 180 on their quality of work, no one has any idea on the Assassin's Creed situation, everything Mistwalker is still delayed into 2007, FEAR is unaccounted, Guitar Hero II is set for next spring, Half-Life 2 is set for 2007, Haze and Huxley are in the same situation, and Lost Planet is set for early 2007 with Mass Effect.

So unless you like playing demos of all these, like playing a bunch of multiplatform games, or still haven't beaten Oblivion, then your 360 is going to be in a worse situation than Wii after Gears of War.

That said, there are 360 games worth owning now. Dead Rising, Oblivion, Saints Row, Dead or Alive 4, GRAW, Prey, PGR3, not to mention Arcade games, it has proven itself worth of a purchase, but not one at $400, especially when the majority of AAA games haven't even set release dates.
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DayLahs

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Dragon164z

I played San Andreas already, it was good. I don't need to spend $400 to play it with better graphics and controls. I'll be ready for another GTA when the real GTA is out. I have 3 friends telling me how good Saints Row is and that I should get it, I'm sure it's fun, but I don't really care about it enough to buy a console for it.

Dead Rising will last me what, a week? Then what? Monkey Ball I have the entire single player to get through and then 50 minigames for continued multiplayer action. I don't see what's so crazy about that...

And I never said Monkey Ball was the sole reason I was getting a Wii, I don't think it's worth buying a console for either. But for $250, 2 solid launch games that I have to own and more than a handful of others that I will buy in the launch window, the Wii is a solid buy at launch. Why is everyone so bitchy if someone doesn't want to buy a console until more games they want are out on it? I'm not at all blind to whats on the way to the 360, but uh they're on the way, as in not there yet. I'll buy it when they get here.



dead rising can last as long as you want it to. Also you dont have to get Saints Row, there are TONS of games on the 360 worth owning.

rocksteady already listed them but if you dont see what you like, then I dont know what to tell you.

moose


All of them will offer awesome experiences and definitely each system's key title this holiday season.

Otherwise... what does 360 have? Oblivion has been out and is available on PC, Bioshock isn't going to be available until the next slew of Wii games, Banjo Threeie is going to be **** unless Rare really pulls a 180 on their quality of work, no one has any idea on the Assassin's Creed situation, everything Mistwalker is still delayed into 2007, FEAR is unaccounted, Guitar Hero II is set for next spring, Half-Life 2 is set for 2007, Haze and Huxley are in the same situation, and Lost Planet is set for early 2007 with Mass Effect.

So unless you like playing demos of all these, like playing a bunch of multiplatform games, or still haven't beaten Oblivion, then your 360 is going to be in a worse situation than Wii after Gears of War.




umm did you see the games coming out BEFORE gears of war?

Splinter Cell Double Agent
Phantasy Star Universe
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
Viva Pinata
Rainbow Six: Vegas
Call of Duty 3

plus the other games people havent picked up yet. 360 is perfect for a holiday purchase.

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moose

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Splinter Cell has never interested me and is available on just about every other system in existance. Who gives a crap, not to mention it'll be on PC too.

Phantasy Star Universe at $60 for the purchase, Xbox Live payment, and and addition payment to play online. No ****ing thanks. Another game better on PC.

Marvel: Ultimate Alliance .. I literally laughed at this one, considering the game looks the same on every console around and will be crap otherwise.

Viva Pinata will be terrible, just flat out terrible. Give me any reason as to why this will be a good game.

Rainbow Six will be available on, again, other consoles for cheaper. One of which is PC, where it will be better.

Call of Duty 3, oh look another Call of Duty rehash with upped graphics that is ****ing again available on PC.
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Formless

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In response to the thread title:

No I havent a clue what console im going to get, the wii launch just looks horrible, the only game worth getting is Zelda and thats a fu*king gamecube game. And whats on the horizon for the Wii, Super mario galaxy, only gods knows when thats going to come out, same situation with metroid.
The majority of the games for the wii launch just look like lazy cash ins to get in on the hype bandwagon of the wii. The games look like they just tacked on the controls and overall look gimmicky. And in my opinion simply tacking on shi*ty controls to horrible looking games and saying that its a revolutionary way to play is alot worse then microsoft and sony simple just updating graphics.

As for the ps3, im not interested especially not for $600,only thing that slighty interests me is mgs4.

The 360 at the moment is looking like the best option, not as expensive as the ps3 but capable of the same things(i dont give two sh!ts about blueray) and seems to be getting alot of great looking games and I'm hearing good things about Live.
But im not there yet to go in and hand over $400.

So I think i might just hang with the DS and PS2 for a while.
(KH2 was just released over here finally!!)
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Splinter Cell has never interested me and is available on just about every other system in existance. Who gives a crap, not to mention it'll be on PC too.

Phantasy Star Universe at $60 for the purchase, Xbox Live payment, and and addition payment to play online. No ****ing thanks. Another game better on PC.

Marvel: Ultimate Alliance .. I literally laughed at this one, considering the game looks the same on every console around and will be crap otherwise.

Viva Pinata will be terrible, just flat out terrible. Give me any reason as to why this will be a good game.

Rainbow Six will be available on, again, other consoles for cheaper. One of which is PC, where it will be better.

Call of Duty 3, oh look another Call of Duty rehash with upped graphics that is ****ing again available on PC.




Reputation hahaha so much for those.
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Robjomak

A zombie killing game vs perhaps the best party game series in existence? Bad comparison.



How do people still have faith in this franchise? It went way down hill after Super Monkey Ball 2 and you all know it.

Super Monkey Ball Deluxe - A joke of a port.
Super Monkey Ball Jr. - Ok, I'll give you this one, pretty decent.
Super Monkey Ball Touch & Roll - Solid idea, but of course it was screwed up.
Super Monkey Ball (N-Gage) - No.

It's Monkey Ball.. we've been playing it for years. As if some magical controller is going to make it all that more interesting now?

 
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