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NerdMonday, January 23rd 2006.

sonicblue

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Prince of Persia: The Greatest Trilogy of the Generation
The Sands of Time, Warrior Within and The Two Thrones. I've finished all three Prince of Persia games to completion and I have to honestly say that of all the games that span multiple releases this generation, the Prince of Persia series is the greatest of them all.

I just got done beating the latest game, The Two Thrones, a few minutes ago and I am just speechless. I'll add more to this thread about the series once I've collected my thoughts. I just had to open the discussion for anyone else who's played and beaten all three games. The Two Thrones for one thing justifies the darkness that was present in Warrior Within.

I personally didn't need that dark theme justified, because I saw the reason for it when the game came out. But some people are just too thick to understand it or refuse to accept something different. Fact of the matter is that the dark theme of WW was necessary for the characters development and the story. The rock music? Not necessary, I'm not gonna pretend that WW was flawless.

But back to The Two Thrones, it really does bring the series full circle. Admittedly, the original PoP didn't end in a fashion that would clearly lead to two sequels. But the developers came up with a way to make it work.

The gameplay in TTT is the best of everything from the first two games plus more. The music is mesmerizing and the architecture is incredible. Playing as the Dark Prince forces you to solve puzzles with a time limit for a great feeling of tension. There is very little I'd change about this game.
NerdMonday, January 23rd 2006.

Kuriboo

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I agree. SoT was awesome beyond words. WW had me worried but TT just changed and finished everything for the best.
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NerdMonday, January 23rd 2006.

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Looking back, I think the fact that Two Thrones makes Prince the good guy again in retrospect makes Warrior Within a better game. The Princes battle with his innerdemons (which is made literal in Two Thrones's epic conclusion) wouldnt have been nearly as poignant if they didn't make the Prince such a dislikeable, disturbed character in Warrior Within. So yeah, I agree Sonicblue. It was nessaciary for them to do it because it helped the overall story. But at the time when it came out I, like most people, felt the collective "WTF?!"

Warrior Within only failed because of its choice of music, unforgiveable save points and boss battles, and overall technical problems.

It may be bold, but do you agree that the Princes final fight with his dark side is one of the best endings to a video game ever? The trippy graphics and the brief flashbacks to memorable places in the series was excellant. I also think the Dark Prince's voice acting in that scene could go down as one of the most dramatic and well handled examples of voice acting in a video game ever.

GO AHEAD! SWING THAT SWORD PRINCE!


Edit: haha sorry, wrong person, my bad
NerdMonday, January 23rd 2006.

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Seconded, only I have a different opinion on the second game. But who gives a crap about that travesty, it still had a good story and tied the games together, backtracking and retarded music be damned.

The third game is not only the greatest in the series, but one of my favorite games I've ever played. The story unfolds in such a wonderful way, with the empress acting as the narrator and the Prince and his cynical doppelganger constantly trying to outdo each other with witty dialogue. I'd buy it for that alone, but the gameplay is absolutely perfect. Stealth kills all but do away with the retarded combat system, and the bosses use context sensitive moves ala God of War and RE4 to make everything feel more cinematic. The Prince himself has turned into one of my favorite video game characters simply because he really is just another guy that got screwed over big time and has to rectify for his foolishness. And he does, even making the Prince in the second game look like a tortured soul instead of a little punkass.

In short, it makes the second game better. I want this series to have a few new installments or be remade as soon as possible on next-gen consoles.

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NerdMonday, January 23rd 2006.

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I loved Sands of Time, and after that I haven't played any others. Although from what I've heard The Two Thrones is much better then Warrior Within, so I'll probably make TTT my next purchase. Even though its a trilogy, I see another sequel in the works for next gen consoles.
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NerdMonday, January 23rd 2006.

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I don't know, when Sands of Time came out in 2003 I didn't really get caught up in all of it, for whatever reason I just remember wanting all three of Ubisoft's releases that winter, XIII, Beyond Good & Evil and Prince of Persia: Sands of Time. I bought them all, and yet the only one I've yet to beat is PoP for whatever reason it just never hooked me. My brother loved it, I just couldn't get into it. I played a good amount of Warrior Within and thought, yeah, it's good but never took the time to beat it. Now I have Two Thrones and I've yet to even sit down with it. However Shadow of the Colossus made me want to play a game with a similar platforming feel, and PoP is the only thing I can think of that comes close, so I do have a sudden urge to crack into one of them again.

I'm not saying they aren't great, but the problem is they just didn't hook me, it didn't seem like a new experience really.

Greatest trilogy this generation? Splinter Cell. Of course that goes debunk when the new one comes out in a few months, but whatever. Jak and Daxter would be the runner up.
NerdMonday, January 23rd 2006.

Kuriboo

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Runner up for me would be R & C. Not including the 4th game... Sneaky
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NerdMonday, January 23rd 2006.

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I liked Sands of Time and that's the only one i've played so far. But it was glitchy as hell. I wouldn't mind playing the other ones in the trilogy, but I don't feel compelled to go out and buy them. Not really sure why.
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sonicblue

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So yeah, I agree Kinopio. It was nessaciary for them to do it because it helped the overall story. But at the time when it came out I, like most people, felt the collective "WTF?!"

Did Kinopio say that in another thread? Or are you confusing me for him? Tongue

NerdMonday, January 23rd 2006.

nenned

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Sands of Time is my 3rd favorite GCN game. I like the other 2 games, but not nearly as much. Still, great trilogy though.
NerdMonday, January 23rd 2006.

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sonicblue

Did Kinopio say that in another thread? Or are you confusing me for him? Tongue


Considering how I haven't played the two sequels, I couldn't have said such a thing.

I suppose I'll end up getting both eventually, as I loved Sands of Time.
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NerdMonday, January 23rd 2006.

Offbeat

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Did Kinopio say that in another thread? Or are you confusing me for him?



haha my bad, I was posting at school and was in a hurry. A Rookie Error.

NerdMonday, January 23rd 2006.

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DAMN Sonic, you just made me remember all the good times I had with SoT and WW. I have to reget them along with TTT on Thursday. I'm going to beat them too, frustration be damned.
NerdMonday, January 23rd 2006.

DayLahs

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I still need to get around to playing TTT(its sitting here still in plastic). if its amazing as you guys, then it is indeed the best trilogy.

my favorite series this generation is Ratchet & clank all the way. it would have been devil may cry, but part 2 made the choice for me very easy.
NerdMonday, January 23rd 2006.

Wesker

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For me, I'd have to go with RE. I mean REmake was the pinnacle, Zero was amazing, and RE4 was great EXCEPT for the story.
NerdMonday, January 23rd 2006.

Wazzupy

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I really must go out and buy The Two Thrones soon, I thrive for PoP. And the assurance of someone as awesome as sonic just makes it more reassuring.
NerdMonday, January 23rd 2006.

Chrono

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The story in RE4 was pretty cool, I like how they tied in Wesker and Krauser in it.

Maybe because they branched the story out more.
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NerdMonday, January 23rd 2006.

DayLahs

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**** if we are going to count those together, then RE was easily the best series this generation.
NerdTuesday, January 24th 2006.

logboy

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first was great : other two were shockingly poor. yes, i completed all three, in 'completist mode' as it were.

how many trilogies can anyone name? count them on one hand?...
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NerdTuesday, January 24th 2006.

Pojo

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Overall, Ratchet and Clank was the most consistent series, but Prince of Persia was more memorable. I don't think I'll care much about Ratchet once I play addictive platformers 1-3 on the PS3.
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NerdTuesday, January 24th 2006.

Rocksteady

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Ratchet is a joke compared to Spyro.
NerdTuesday, January 24th 2006.

DayLahs

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Rocksteady

Ratchet is a joke compared to Spyro.



we are talking about the first two spyro games right? cause after that, they went downhill faster then jack and jill.

NerdTuesday, January 24th 2006.

Rocksteady

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First three. The good ones, which were also made by Insomniac Games.
NerdWednesday, January 25th 2006.

Pithy

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I just bought Sands of Time, Warrior Within and The Two Thrones. I'm almost done with SoT, which is AMAZING. (All 3 for GCN, btw)
NerdWednesday, January 25th 2006.

Hero

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You know, we could've had a thread like this about Beyond Good and Evil had it sold well. Disgust
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Meloche

You know, we could've had a thread like this about Beyond Good and Evil had it sold well. Disgust



Don't give up hope Meloche, don't give up. Cry
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NerdWednesday, January 25th 2006.

Hero

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Yeah... next-gen Beyond Good and Evil Revolution exclusive, right? =
NerdWednesday, January 25th 2006.

Kuriboo

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Meloche

Yeah... next-gen Beyond Good and Evil Revolution exclusive, right? =



Lets hope. Pray
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NerdWednesday, January 25th 2006.

Pojo

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Ratchet is a joke compared to Spyro.

Like I said before, I won't care much about Ratchet in years to come. I said the same thing about Spyro and Crash.

In all honesty though, I enjoyed Ratchet and Clank much more than I did Spyro. The weapon system got some RPG in my action game, which was nice. It didn't feel tacked on, either. One of the few complete series that I finished with a 100% completion rate.
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NerdWednesday, January 25th 2006.

Faramir

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Is the two thrones backwards capable with xbox 360?
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NerdWednesday, January 25th 2006.

Imp

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who needs two thrones when you get barbie horse adventures?
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Imp

who needs two thrones when you get barbie horse adventures?



Even in that impossible statement, someone wouldn't already own that game and would (more than likely however) own Two Thrones (which I just finished today).
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NerdWednesday, January 25th 2006.

Imp

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Even in that impossible statement, someone wouldn't already own that game and would (more than likely however) own Two Thrones (which I just finished today).


You know what's more impossible? Your grammer getting worse.
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NerdWednesday, January 25th 2006.

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a couple commas, perhaps three, and it'd be all right; it's not quite so bad as you say.
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NerdThursday, January 26th 2006.

Imp

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a couple commas, perhaps three, and it'd be all right; it's not quite so bad as you say.


I think the overall bigger problem was the word structure, but it sounds more like you're agreeing with me than anything.
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prince of persia is one of the best games ever
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NerdWednesday, February 1st 2006.

kinopio

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Which one?
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NerdWednesday, February 1st 2006.

Hero

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Imp

You know what's more impossible? Your grammer getting worse.


Your, grammar, could use a little help too.

 
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