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NerdTuesday, January 10th 2006.

Rocksteady

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Sony: "The next generation doesn't start until we say it does."
when it came to the fourth part of Sony's digital future vision, PlayStation, the Sony keynote address disappointed. Stringer, a masterful presenter, ceded the floor to Kaz Hirai, the similarly smooth president and CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment America, who talked about...the PlayStation 2. Hirai said the console actually saw a 10 percent year-on-year increase in holiday sales, contradicting many analysts' predictions. He also elicited chuckles by pointing out that both the PS2 and the PSP outsold the hard-to-find Xbox 360 over the holidays. He also took a verbal swipe at Sony's next-gen rival, saying, "The next generation doesn't start until we say it does."

When the subject did turn to the PlayStation 3, Hirai offered no major new information. He did say that the console is a "key pillar of Sony growth in 2006"--reconfirming its release this year--and said Sony has shipped out 4,000 software development kits for the console worldwide. Otherwise, though, Hirai merely restated previously known information about the PS3. He said its CPU, the vaunted Cell processor, would use only seven of its eight cores, and, yes, the console would be backward-compatible with both PS2 and original PlayStation games.

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Ahh, arrogance.
NerdTuesday, January 10th 2006.

Crunchy

to jue

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Location: the "Employee of the Month" parking spot

And ignorance.
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Red Yoshi

What about us?

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C'mon, the console wars would be boring without the smack talk. You know you love it. Really.
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Bucket

There's only one 64

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OH SNAP HE DID NOT JUST GO THERE

He's right, anyway. Or at least, as right as anyone would be no matter what they said. Remember a time when a new console would come out of the woodwork every year?
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Coconut

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Well, he's basically right. I mean Nintendo's has stuck with "we'll be ready when the PS3 is ready" or whatever it is they're saying, and Xbox 360 is basically a buncha ports as of right now. So...Erm
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Ninjazn

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Its okay, Reggie can come right back and tell them that the next handheld generation doesn't start till they say so. Wink
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Fiddy

hi ho silver

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He is right you know.

And it's going to be fun seeing sony CRUSHED!!! Hopefully.
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leafs rule

#1

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He's right. Market leader=decides everything!!

And Xbox360 sucks. How much money are they gonna lose on this one? lol lol lol
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kinopio

Punk's Not Dead

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I hate Sony's PR bull**** as much as the next guy (8th core left unused? wtf?), but I agree with Coconut that it's basically the truth. To most people (including myself) it's not next gen just yet!
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NerdTuesday, January 10th 2006.

Pojo

is it?

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It doesn't start until the PS3 is out. This is just a fact, if the awesome trailers are to be believed. The 360 stuff looks like crap compared to it, and the Revolution...yeah.

This is a weird generation.
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Aidan_702

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Ninjazn

.ninja

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Pojo

if the awesome trailers are to be believed.

Which we all know shouldn't be believed.
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Ragnar Danneskjöld

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Lol Pojo is a PS3whore.

Face it buddy, It wont be MUCH stronger...If even that.
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Advance

Like the Groundhog Phil.

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If he honestly believed that, they'd delay the PS3, give it a tune up in the process, and turn the Xbox 360 into the next Dreamcast.
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Xiu Xiu

Curbstomp yr Enthusiasm

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DS OWNAGE
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Wesker

Shepard...

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Pojo

It doesn't start until the PS3 is out. This is just a fact, if the awesome trailers are to be believed. The 360 stuff looks like crap compared to it, and the Revolution...yeah.

This is a weird generation.


ATTN: FN Round 3 Demo on Xbox 360. Now shut up.

NerdTuesday, January 10th 2006.

Firecrest_Neoflames

It's all like ":D".

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I wonder if Sony can actually back up all this schoolyard talk?
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NerdTuesday, January 10th 2006.

AMG

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Sony crack me up. They have got way too cocky, but I guess selling around 200 million consoles will do that to you.
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SilvaHalo

Make me smile..

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Next Gen started November 22nd
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Coconut

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I think you're talking about last gen, and that was sometime in, like, October of 2000




Man, you were way wrong
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Hero

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Sony honestly picks the weirdest times to talk about things. At E3 they should've been focusing on the PSP and Ps2, yet they ignored both and talked primarly of the Ps3. Now CES rolls around, it's the year of the Ps3, and what do they talk about? The Ps2, for ****'s sake.

ridiculous.
NerdTuesday, January 10th 2006.

Robjomak

still going strong

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It makes perfect sense for Sony's interests and from their perspective. At E3 they had to soften the blow of the 360 as much as possible - hyping PS3 is what would best do that. Now that we're back to reality and Sony knows full well PS3 isn't coming out for a long while, they can just fall back on current consoles and try to make more money. Why talk about a console they have nothing substantial to show for now?
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Hero

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if the ps3 is due out this year, it's not that far off. unless they're planning on letting it slip into 07, now is the time to start getting the ball rolling, and continue to attempt to take steam from MS's sails.
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fudge

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man ps3 will be awesome
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Dark Aerow

What is seen

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Next gen for me has always been when nintendo released a new console and always will be.
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DayLahs

Will Never Be Another

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hahahahahaha
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Good Doctor

i'll be your king volcano

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Firecrest_Neoflames

I wonder if Sony can actually back up all this schoolyard talk?


No, but Hideo Kojima can.
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NerdWednesday, January 11th 2006.

Iris

Highly, I say

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Are they actually trying to make people hate them? I want Sony to fail now just because of their annoying attitude.
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NerdWednesday, January 11th 2006.

kinopio

Punk's Not Dead

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Good Doctor

No, but Hideo Kojima can.


And did.
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NerdWednesday, January 11th 2006.

Red Yoshi

What about us?

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THE CONSOLE WARS IS OVER.
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mechagouki

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kinopio

I hate Sony's PR bull**** as much as the next guy (8th core left unused? wtf?), but I agree with Coconut that it's basically the truth. To most people (including myself) it's not next gen just yet!



SEGA know what this is all about: they tried to jump the generational gun with the Dreamcast, $ony didn't care at all and they were shown to be right, Nintendo might have heard the generational gun a few moments after everyone else last time around, let's hope they're listening now....
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"Kick out the jams, motherfuckers!"

NerdWednesday, January 11th 2006.

Assman

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ATTN: FN Round 3 Demo on Xbox 360. Now shut up.




FNR3 is only rendering TWO people, so it isn't hard to get the most from the 360 when doing that(the game looks gorgeous!).


Anyway, If Sony does release PS3 this spring in Japan, then I don' see a huge gap when it comes to power between PS3 and 360, especially if it's just 6 months, and a few developers have just gotten their final 360 dev. kits late last year.

Anyone expecting Snake to look as good as the cutscences in MGS4 will be dissappointed. The poly-count will surely dive when you actually play the game. Just look at the past MGS games.
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NerdWednesday, January 11th 2006.

Goemon

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Just look at the screenshots for any PS2 game and then look at the real game, that will show you that Sony is nothing but BS when it comes to screen shots. GT4 looked like pure crap, Shadow of the Colossis looked like crap (but played very well). But the screens for both of those games were amazing. Sony is BS when it comes to specs and graphics claims.
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Kuriboo

Super

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Next Gen starts when I buy a next gen console....


... Give Up
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NerdWednesday, January 11th 2006.

Goemon

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To say that the Xbox 360 is not a next gen console is dumb IMO, the 360 is the Next generation of Xbox consoles. So for me Next Gen started 12am November 22 when I got my 360.
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Assman

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It comes down to art next generation. Look at Perfect Dark Zero. Graphics are great, but the artstyle is some of the worst I've ever seen.
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NerdWednesday, January 11th 2006.

DayLahs

Will Never Be Another

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so the artstyle is some of the worse you've seen your whole life gaming? there is nothing wrong with PDZ's graphics or artstyle.
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Pojo

is it?

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PDZ is horribly bland. Hell, even the main character looks like a crackhead. The art design is very much lacking.

Oh, and Fight Night doesn't look as good as the demo shown at E3, for some reason. I never really expected it to, but man. Maybe it's just the extremely dark ring they fought in...
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Old School Gamer

Survivor through Jesus

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DayLahs

so the artstyle is some of the worse you've seen your whole life gaming? there is nothing wrong with PDZ's graphics or artstyle.



Perhaps not, but the rest of the game, especially the controls, is terrible.

NerdWednesday, January 11th 2006.

AdamChrisH

Chuckya

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Advance

the Xbox 360 into the next Dreamcast.


I think it already is.

NerdWednesday, January 11th 2006.

Goemon

Boom Boom

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AdamChrisH

I think it already is.



That's cool with me, I had more fun with the Dreamcast than I did with any other system. Tongue

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ness

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Old School Gamer

Perhaps not, but the rest of the game, especially the controls, is terrible.


No they are not the controls are fine, just take some adjusting from other FPS.
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NerdThursday, January 12th 2006.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

Friend of the Friendless

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^In other words they suck.
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I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. -Thomas Jefferson,
NerdThursday, January 12th 2006.

Assman

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The controls are fine, and I never said anything about the graphics being bad. Maybe I was going a little far, but as Pojo mentioned, the art is very bland.
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NerdSaturday, January 14th 2006.

FOmawl

Porcupo

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maybe its right, maybe next gen wont truly start til PS3 is out.. nintendo wont be out til around then.. and xbox 360 sure isnt doing anything amazing at this point.. bleh who cares the only game im looking foward to right now is on PC anyways.
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NerdSaturday, January 14th 2006.

SilvaHalo

Make me smile..

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kinopio

And did.



ok lol

NerdSaturday, January 14th 2006.

RansacK

Pompon Flower

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AdamChrisH

I think it already is.

Can we have some facts to back up this stupid assumption.

NerdSaturday, January 14th 2006.

Blueblur1

Lakitu

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Goemon

That's cool with me, I had more fun with the Dreamcast than I did with any other system. Tongue



I second that.

 
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