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M-Create (2/14/05 - 2/20/05) RE4, We Hardly Knew You.

Software:

Rank/ System/ Title/ Developer/ Sold This Week/ Sold Total

1/ PS2/ Devil May Cry 3/ Capcom/ 194,530/ 194,530
2/ PS2/ Dragon Ball Z3/ Bandai/ 90,911/ 517,807
3/ PS2/ Rumble Roses/ Konami/ 73,935/ 73,935
4/ PS2/ D1 Grand Prix/ Yukes/ 26,286/ 26,268
5/ PS2/ Gladiator: Road to Freedom/ Ertain/ 14,336/ 14,336
6/ PS2/ Gran Turismo 4/ SCE/ 12,863/ 956,690
7/ PSP/ Popolocrois Monotagari: Pietoro Ouji no Bouken/ SCE/ 11,956/ 45,715
8/ DS/ Catch! Touch! Yoshi!/ Nintendo/ 11,591/ 120,696
9/ PS2/ Shinseki Yusha Daisen/ Atlus/ 10,487/ 10,487
10/ PSP/ Minna no Golf Portable/ SCE/ 10,353/ N/A- Game was not on last week's Top 10 Chart to calculate complete total

Hardware:

System/ Sold This Week/ 2005 Total
PS2/ 38,954/ 432,091
PSP/ 38,314/ 400,669
DS/ 22,363/ 328,042
GBASP/ 10,849/ 148,736
GC/ 3,256/ 55,428
GBA/ 399/ 4,421
Xbox/ 295/ 3,595

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HA! damn not even in the top 10. anyways, great sales for DMC 3 cant wait to pick it up next week. Gran turismo is almost to a million sold EXCELLENT. Has the Ds outsold the psp any this year yet?

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I beleive PSP has outsold DS every week this year but DS has still outsold PSP LTD.

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Not like DMC3 did a whole lot better than RE4 - considering the difference in userbase. But yeah - too bad RE4 Frown

PSP is really not selling that well considering they are available everywhere now. It will be interesting to see what happens when the DS and PSP finally start releasing some software. I wonder if Sony is starting to panic yet.

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PSP is really not selling that well considering they are available everywhere now. It will be interesting to see what happens when the DS and PSP finally start releasing some software. I wonder if Sony is starting to panic yet.

I don't think Sony has any major reason to panic. Third party support for the PSP is solid to say the least, and PSP hardware sales are neck and neck with PS2 sales.

Anyway, the DS's sales are not especially good, but not that many games have been released on it as of late. I hope Another Code does well. Yeah, here's hoping....

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Why should Sony be panicing? Isn't Nintendo the one who hasn't outsold the PSP once this year?

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Why should Sony be panicing? Isn't Nintendo the one who hasn't outsold the PSP once this year?

But Nintendo is used to loosing to Sony. Sony loosing steam in Japan must be shocking to them.

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Man .. that announcement sure hurt RE4's sales. I hope DMC3 falls off the charts quickly.

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I don't think Sony has any major reason to panic. Third party support for the PSP is solid to say the least, and PSP hardware sales are neck and neck with PS2 sales.

No reason to panic? Even at this pace it will take a year to match the sales of the DS. The problem is that within that year span - plenty of good games will come out for the DS and it WILL surge ahead several times. Sony needs to sell as many units as fast as they can, and right now they are not.

The DS has it's problems as well for sure, but is Sony going to wait for more DS to strike out again, or are they going to do something?

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But Nintendo is used to loosing to Sony. Sony loosing steam in Japan must be shocking to them.

I don't see Sony losing steam. Hardware sales dropped across the board, and playstation software dominated the charts this week (there are even PSP games up there).

EDIT: Buzzjive, Sony doesn't need to surpass the DS's userbase in one fell swoop. All they have to do is gradually establish the PSP and build up their own handheld userbase. Also, the DS release list has no major hitters for a while. Don't forget, the PSP is not without its own good games [in development].

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But Nintendo is used to loosing to Sony. Sony loosing steam in Japan must be shocking to them.

Losing steam? Didn't they start off being way behind Nintendo? And since then they've done nothing but stay ahead of Nintendo. Where's the steam they're losing?

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The problem is that within that year span - plenty of good games will come out for the DS and it WILL surge ahead several times.

So only the DS will get good games and sales surges? Why can't the PSP get great games too and get even bigger surges than the DS?

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The problem is that within that year span - plenty of good games will come out for the DS and it WILL surge ahead several times.

So only the DS will get good games and sales surges?

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PSP will have surges. Sure. It will go both ways - but here's the real point I'm making:

There weren't even 1 million people in Japan that were convinced that the PSP is a "must have" item.

The demand has waned. They are available everywhere, and consumers are not inclined to buy them. Heck - Apple sells more iPods in any given week I'm sure, and all they do is play music. The GBA and the GBASP were FLYING off the shelves at this point. Sony isn't JUST competing with the DS (who's sales have slowed - yes), they are trying to break into a much bigger market that includes iPods and GBA's as well. Where is the demand? How much lower will it go? That is what Sony should be panicking about.

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I think you're exaggerating the problem. Sure, the PSP isn't doing amazingly well. Okay. Yet, it is selling at the same rate as the PS2. Such a rate of sales is undeniably good. That is not something to worry about. Also, the DS's weeky sales, I think, are a greater cause for concern.

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The demand has waned. They are available everywhere, and consumers are not inclined to buy them.

Are you sure of that? I was under the impression that Sony was still only sending out limited amounts of PSPs. Limited in comparison to however many DS's Nintendo is able to ship out. Got any shipping numbers?

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Heck - Apple sells more iPods in any given week I'm sure, and all they do is play music.

Different market, different country, no proof.

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So only the DS will get good games and sales surges? Why can't the PSP get great games too and get even bigger surges than the DS?

bigger sales surges than what pokemon, final fantasy, dragon quest, mario, zelda, xenosaga, castlevania, secret of mana, kirby, ... can do for DS sales?
do you think so?
anyway, nintendo is a holiday season company that most of its sales in terms of hardware and software come from holiday season. during these past weeks PS2 could outsell GC nearly 10 to 1 but these ratio during holiday season was less than 3 to 1.
so even if PSP can outsell DS with this margin during next 9 months (its impossible) then again during holiday season (just like last year) DS will crash PSP.
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I personally feel the PSP will fail as a gaming machine. A lot of consumers in North America are going to buy the system for movie playback (how uninformed they are of the shortcomings) and other media options. A dollar spent on "other media" is a dollar taken from game developers. When game developers cannot turn a profit, they're going to go a different route (basic law of common sense).

I've also heard that even at $249.99, the PSP is still losing a lot of money per system. If software doesn't sell well after the initial boom phase, Sony should be worrying.

The DS isn't selling well lately because people are waiting on more games. Unlike the PSP, they DS is a game player, period. I'm in that crowd. When the DS gets around five solid games that I would be interested in, I will make my motion to buy one. The games have to be fun and something I can play between class breaks. I'm not interested in playing titles that belong on a console although I'm sure the system will get some of those that are damn fine, but I don't use handhelds in that way.

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Are you sure of that? I was under the impression that Sony was still only sending out limited amounts of PSPs. Limited in comparison to however many DS's Nintendo is able to ship out. Got any shipping numbers?

Yes - I'm sure. They've been available for weeks over there. You've been able to import from Lik Sang for weeks now - and I know people over there that say they are readily available. I don't have the shipping numbers though. Sorry.

Of course I'm exaggerating the problem a bit, but Nintendo didn't run out of buyers until well beyond a million and a half units sold. Did they have the benefit of better supply during the launch window? Yes. But Sony isn't selling these things as fast as they can produce them, which is what some people actually expected - including Sony themselves.

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Dammn RE4 not there anymore!

To bad DS wasnt included in last months NPD. I want to see how much it has sold in the US. I think it has probably sold around 4 million worldwide. and will probably reach 5 million before E3.
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Dammn RE4 not there anymore!

To bad DS wasnt included in last months NPD. I want to see how much it has sold in the US. I think it has probably sold around 4 million worldwide. and will probably reach 5 million before E3.

DS sales in US

December 745,899
January 152,091

installed base 1,377,685
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?huh?

I don't have the exact figures, but the DS has sold at least 3.2 million worldwide since its inception last November.

Also not exact, the PSP has sold at least 800K units in Japan since its inception last year.

All these sales for two systems that have no killer apps yet. Amazing.

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?huh?

I don't have the exact figures, but the DS has sold at least 3.2 million worldwide since its inception last November.

Also not exact, the PSP has sold at least 800K units in Japan since its inception last year.

All these sales for two systems that have no killer apps yet. Amazing.

DS sales :
Japan 1,823,638 (end of last week)
US 1,377,685 (end of January)

PSP sales :
Japan 882,921 (end of last week)
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Woah Japan sure loves the DS.
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Naruto will surely boost Japan DS numbers too. :thumb:

I've given up on Japan in the console scene, they suck big time.

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According to those numbers I was only off by 1323 for the DS. By that doesn't account for February. So the DS has at least a 2.3 million advantage, woot.

How many units is Sony launching for the NA release? 500K? 800K? 1mil?

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DS Meteos 2005-03-10 5040 yen Bandai
DS Pac-Pix 2005-03-10 5040 yen Namco
DS Harvest Moon: Korobokkuru Station 2005-03-17 5040 yen Marvellous
DS Egg Monster Hero 2005-03-24 5040 yen Square Enix
DS Gamen genei satsujin jiken: The Masquerade Lullaby 2005-03-24 5040 yen Genki
DS Space Invaders DS 2005-03-24 3990 yen Taito
DS Touch! Kirby: Mahou no Efude 2005-03-24 4800 yen Nintendo
DS Yakuman DS 2005-03-31 4800 yen Nintendo

These games are supposed to be released in March according to Gamescience.com. I think the DS has an awesome month ahead especially with Egg Monsters, plus with the recent release of Another Code, the DS sales shoud pick up.
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7/ PSP/ Popolocrois Monotagari: Pietoro Ouji no Bouken/ SCE/ 11,956/ 45,715

What is this game? Erm

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What is this game?

It's an RPG, a concatenation of two PS2 (or PS1...?) RPGs with a new story thrown in just for fun. It isn't supposed to be very memorable, and suffers from bad blur, but it is a real RPG, and after all it's Japan Wink
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Should be interesting to see if Another Code sells any units this week. RE4 falling off the charts is pathetic. It's Capcom's own fault for not mentioning that it was coming to PS2 at E3 like they should have. As for PSP, I just don't know. I want to see how it does here. People are comparing them to Ipods, but the thing to remember is to make a PSP like an Ipod mini you'll need 4 1G Turbo Duo Pro sticks (is that what they're called?) at $100 each. Plus a $249.99 system. So, let's just say you buy one. It's then got limited music storage. I'm just saying it's not as grand as people think, and I think people will realize that.

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DS sales :
Japan 1,823,638 (end of last week)
US 1,377,685 (end of January)

I am not very impressed with that US data. Didn't the DS have around 1.3 million sold at the end of December? I am not sure. Perchance, you know?

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Should be interesting to see if Another Code sells any units this week. RE4 falling off the charts is pathetic. It's Capcom's own fault for not mentioning that it was coming to PS2 at E3 like they should have. As for PSP, I just don't know. I want to see how it does here. People are comparing them to Ipods, but the thing to remember is to make a PSP like an Ipod mini you'll need 4 1G Turbo Duo Pro sticks (is that what they're called?) at $100 each. Plus a $249.99 system. So, let's just say you buy one. It's then got limited music storage. I'm just saying it's not as grand as people think, and I think people will realize that.

It sold over 30,000 on it's first day.

http://forums.n-philes.com/showthread.php?t=11339

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I am not very impressed with that US data. Didn't the DS have around 1.3 million sold at the end of December? I am not sure. Perchance, you know?

by the end of last December 1,225,594 DS units sold in US.
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RE4 sold LESS than 10,000???!!!###$$$$$)(&^(*^&%& AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
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I think the game has done good on the Cube since it was announced for the PS2. You have to remember Japan is Sony whores. Erm

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by the end of last December 1,225,594 DS units sold in US.

Oh, ok. Thanks. Then the DS's sales in January weren't as bad as I thought.

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I don't have the shipping numbers though.

I do now!!

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050301/tc_nm/tech_sony_psp_dc_1

The PSP launched in Japan last December and remains in extremely limited supply there, having shipped nearly 1.2 million units to date.

Nice PR in there: "extremely limited" my eye. There's over 300,000 PSP's unaccounted for in the sales charts.

Demand is waning. PSP = doomed.

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DS sales in US

December 745,899
January 152,091

installed base 1,377,685

What a bout November Sales??

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What a bout November Sales??

You're not very good at math, are you? Thanks for saving me the time, 'buu.

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Well, DS is going to be an official #2 in a few months. Nintendo ****ing sucks at being competitive these days.
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Well, DS is going to be an official #2 in a few months.

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Well, DS is going to be an official #2 in a few months.

Hey, you can't blame the GBA for its installed base. At least the DS won't be 3rd place, with that loser* PSP.

* I like the PSP, but really now.
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